What's up guys it's me Phoenix and today I'm going to be doing something to prove why Sora and Ichigo are stronger than you think because a lot of people underestimate these guys abilities a lot so I'm going to explaining why their way stronger than what people (including Death Battle) than what people think. Now my evidence does come from a few videos I watched so I'm gonna be bringing up many of their points in this and show the videos afterwards. But without further a do let's begin.
So let's start thinks of with Sora. The reason I say Sora is completely underestimated by so many people is because it's mainly because they've never played the series.
Now personally I don't really care if people played the Kingdom Hearts series or not if you haven't the games that's fine I'm completely fine with that I'm not gonna force you to. However when it comes to power scaling I would have a slight issue because not playing the games that tells me that you lack any knowledge of the characters or how scaling works in the series and completely understanding anything about it. Now I can relate to that because I lacked any knowledge of shows like Avatar: The Last Airbender and never watched that until December 2018 and also The Legend of Korra which I never watched until May 2019. As well as Naruto, Bleach, Dragon Ball, Fullmetal Alchemist, and Ben 10 which I haven't watched until early summer of 2019 and also recently I never watched Stranger Things and The Dragon Prince until now. So I can relate to lacking knowledge of these types of series and not knowing about them is a big problem because you will massively low ball the characters at 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 degrees in terms of power scaling. So I can see people who haven't played/heard of the Kingdom Hearts series lowballing the characters and not understanding what's going so if you're one of those people who haven't played the games I recommend you just look up some let's plays, walkthroughs, cutscenes, Kingdom Hearts wikis, mangas etc. (Death Battle is not always a reliable so don't use it.)
So starting off we're just going to be talking about the Kingdom Hearts verse on what it is. There are two main arguments you can go for one is that the worlds you play in are planets in a sea full of stars which was stated in the Kingdom Hearts 3 English notebook and two is that worlds are their own separate universe making every world in we've travel throughout the entire series is a universe so it's arguable that Kingdom Hearts has a multiverse.
Because world in Japanese is Sekai which literally means "World" "Society" and "Universe" in english.
And many arguments on Kingdom Hearts being a multiverse is that each world has its own set of stars and not the space between worlds when traveling.
Heck The Grand Councilwoman from Lilo and Stitch was stated to oversee the universe in Birth by Sleep despite all the Lilo and Stitch characters still being in their own world.
Another thing about this is that you can't travel between these worlds without a Keyblade. You also can't explain to It's residents on the world you're in that their are other worlds despite how the Councilwoman can oversee the universe whiles remain in her own world so it won't make any sense if these worlds are just planets.
Eraqus had to unlock ways for the Keyblade Welders to travel through worlds in Birth by Sleep and it wouldn't make any sense if these were just planets.
In Dream Drop Distance Riku and pals talk about if the worlds have different sets of time so because of the fact that each world has their own Disney story rather than planets themselves existing all at the same time than it's logical and arguable to say that Kingdom Hearts has a multiverse. But with all this out of a way let's get into some feats and scaling.
Sora throughout the years has gone quite stronger and more powerful and has been learning some newer abilities like the Power of Waking which grants the user the ability to restore sleeping hearts (basically resurrecting the dead)
However if this ability was overused than it will cost the user not only his or her heart but also their very existence of life and vanish to a unknown part of time. Meaning that Sora sacrificed himself to save his friends and even bring back Kairi was killed by Xehanort during the final battle. But somehow he vanished to another world in the secret ending. Now if you haven't watched the secret ending well it's right here.
So for those of you who are still confused basically what happened at the end of Kingdom Hearts 3 after Xehanort was defeated all the Garudians of Light started celebrating their victory on Destiny Islands while Sora is sitting next to Kairi on a tree and fading away right in front of her. This was all doe to the fact from Sora's sacrifice. But with all this out of the way we'll get into some scaling.
Sora has had many strength feats. Sora has gone toe to toe and taken a hit from multiple enemies. For example he was able to go toe to toe with Hercules who lifted and through a giant monster into space. Based on its size and the distance it was thrown this feat was about more than 60 billion tons (60,258,128,195 tons of TNT) that far surpasses Death Battle's calculations and that was the distance he threw it. Hurc also grabbed a titan that was a shape of a tornado sucked all the other titans in and threw them into space. That is insane and Sora was able to take a hit from him which is something I'll get into later but it's insane. Sora has fought on par with other Keyblade welders like Aqua who were able to destroy the X-Blade with her D-Link which resulted in a explosion. According to some calculations I found this feat to be at least 965 megatons of TNT.
The X-Blade has been described as a forge between high-dimensional powers and with it Xehanort was going to turn the Kingdom Hearts verse back to nothing.
So if you wanna say Sora is at a high-dimensional character who defeated a being at that level than go for it especially since the X-Blade can be used to destroy the entire universe or multiverse.
As for speed he was to dodge a return stroke which can move at 220,000,000 miles per hour and even more impressive he was able to block 1000 lasers which can move at light speed so Sora would have to be moving at least 670,616,629,384 miles per hour to do this even if he was half that speed he's still way above light speed. He was also able to fight characters in the Realm of Darkness which was stated to be a Realm with literally no time.
Meaning that Sora has somewhat breaks the speed formula with Speed=Distance/Time when their is none meaning that if you high ball Sora's speed than he would have immeasurable speed or irrelevant speed.
Quick heads up: Irrelevant speed means that time does not matter so if you wanna say that Sora has that speed than go ahead.
Now this is just highballing to me I don't think that Sora has immeasurable speed but if you want to argue that Sora does have immeasurable speed than you can.
As for durability Sora can take a hit from nearly anyone like Hercules, Roxas, Ansem, Xemnas and etc. But a lot of people still downplay what Sora is really capable of some would say that Sora is constellation level. Some will say the X-Blade is beyond anything that's in the verse however it's untrue because Aqua was able to destroy the X-Blade into pieces with her D-Link sure sure it was incomplete at the time but the point her still stands so it wouldn't make sense for Xehanort to lose or be effected by the cast with his high-dimensional powers if he was infinitely stronger than I guess that means he can solo almost all of Marvel and DC.
The power of the heart is downplayed and overlooked because in the first Keyblade War all light was destroyed.
Most scientist like Ansem the Wise has stated that the Heart has limitless potential beyond human comprehension and that it is impossible to and that it is hard to access the full potential off.
But still many people downplay Sora what he's capable of like how Death Battle said that Sora is only lightning level in terms of speed on how the Keyblade Beam can go 1.28 times the speed of light even though I found some calculations that prove that it's actually 3.5 times the speed of light (2,347,158,202 miles per hour) the link is right here but all you guys have to do is just type it yourselves.
http://web.archive.org/web/20160505020454/http://www.narutoforums.com/xfa-blog-entry/shoot-the-moon-kingdom-hearts.22354/
Or like how Sora can't enter his Drive Forms without help when this video says otherwise. (12:09-12:39)
Thus proving that Death Battle's research is not always accurate. But that's all I have for Sora and why he's stronger than people think.
Next up we have Ichigo and the reason why I'm doing him is because unlike Kingdom Hearts a lot of people HAVE watched Bleach but they downplay the show and it's characters on purpose. Just ask a friend of mine.
It's such a shame how many people know about the anime yet they completely downplay the characters to 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 degrees rather if it's power scaling or not Bleach is still completely downplayed. If you don't believe watch these two videos
YouTubers like Death Battle and Watchmojo say a bunch crazy BS and the worst part is that people believe them. Why? Because they have over 1 million subscribers! Like okay for those of you who think Death Battle's research is accurate I think you're lost if you think their very credible especially since people like SethTheProgramer getting a lot of hate for telling the truth and showing evidence meanwhile Death Battle tells a 100% lie and still gets more views like saying that Kaguya and Yhwach aren't planet busters and Naruto and Ichigo don't scale to them if they were. Or how Android 18 can absorb energy when she can't or that Ben's Omnitrix has zero defenses against limb removals when someone tries to cut Ben's hand off and failed. That's ridiculous. And a lot of people still defend Death Battle because of it meanwhile SethTheProgramer gets a lot of hate for showing ACTUAL evidence underestimate his research just because of debunking videos and WatchMojo only said Naruto was better than Bleach just for the sake of money that's way beyond dirty. This is why I barely listen to bigger YouTubers.
He debunks videos that didn't need to be debunked, hmm?..........*Reaction
Like what the heck *coughs* who.. *coughs*.... who the *coughs*... hold on *coughs* I need some water. *Drinks the water and sighs in relief* that's much better. I'm sorry that claim was so ridiculous I couldn't even speak especially since he's saying that videos that say a bunch of BS like Saitama solos anyone, Jiren VS the entire Marvel universe, Android 18 can absorb energy, that Thanos and Galactus is below planetary and are weaker than Boros, Saitama's opponents are so strong that it would take the combine might of the Avengers and the Justice League to take them on, Superman's strength being infinite, and Kirby being stronger than Buu because he threw a frying pan to the sun and back doesn't deserved to be debunked....
Death Battle: *Says Superman has limitless lifting strength.*
SethTheProgramer: *Debunks that claim shows evidence and gets a lot of hate for that.*
Yeah he definitely debunks videos that didn't really need to be debunked. I'm not closing my eyes and be blinded by the truth especially by someone who probably agrees with people who have million subs. But anyways with all this out of the way let's prove why Ichigo is also stronger than people think.
Okay so I think the way to start this off with Ichigo's Bankai form because a lot of people (including Death Battle) severally downplayed it. Okay so Ichigo is comparable to if not stronger than Bankai Toshiro. Toshiro states that anything within 7.3 miles is going to die.
The 7.3 miles is an area comparable to a city block.
Meaning that Ichigo in his Bankai form is Building Level which is listed as .25 to 2 tons of TNT, multiply that by 200 and you get 50 to 400 tons of tnt which would be City Block to Low Multi City Block.
Ichigo's Dankai form is actually Planet+ level the reason is that Aizen states that Ichigo has surpassed all Shinigami and all Hallows
Especially people like Yhwach who is Multi-Planet level who was about to destroy all worlds right into Ichigo's face and Ichigo still manage to body him with nearly less difficulty.
We also have Ichigo with his Fullbring Bankai form which was able to go toe to toe with Quilge Opie who was able to absorb Reiatsu which does make him stronger.
And Ichigo was able to body him in this form. Which is insane.
In terms of speed now this is where people get the lowball. They say that Ichigo is not light speed and only lightning speed even though Ichigo has a lot of FTL feats heck even Death Battle states that Ichigo is at least 30 percent light speed. Okay so Ichigo was able to move at lightning speed.
Which according to a video I found can he move at Mach 30 and Mach 300 with the times 10 multiplayer. Mean he most be moving at 230,180 miles per hour but Ichigo can go faster than that by moving 313,073,000 miles per because he took a trip that should've token 7 days which instead took 9 hours for 15 minutes. So by multiplying them this means Ichigo's best reaction speed is around 72,063,143,140,000 miles per hour. That's WAY above light speed and massively faster than light. Now there's a big difference between travel speed and combat speed which I know so that's I have some supporting evidence to it. With Ichigo being able to block attacks like a Cero which can move at light speed.
And last but not least we have durability Ichigo survived and attack from Yhwach destroy all the worlds on into Ichigo's face (literally). Putting his output at Multi-Planet level.
Unfortunately a lot of people still downplay at what Ichigo is capable of and honestly it's just stupid. Some will say Ichigo is lightning level even though he has shown some light speed feats even at the beginning of the series.
But that is it for this chapter and now you know how powerful Sora and Ichigo can be. Now it's fine to not here about something or not interesting in it trust me I've been there before but I think it is important to everyone (including myself) that it we research some of these characters and their franchises to know who they are. If you have questions about Kingdom Hearts come talk to people like me Multi-FandomWriter SoraLover777 and NobodyXidel we've played the Kingdom Hearts games before we are experts at those series. If you have questions about Bleach talk to Bleach-Grimmjow and TyForestWrites I would have been struggling on Sakura VS Rukia and Madara VS Aizen if it weren't for these guys they are Bleach experts so trust me they'll be a great help. Oh and one more thing I'm not saying that Death Battle is always incorrect some of their results are correct it's just that sometimes you have to do research yourself before thinking that their right. But that's all for today thank you all so much for reading and