The many, many, many versions of Jaune arc

Shockwave

Yang: well that's depressing.

Watts chuckled

Watts: depressing and true! You are fighting against the strongest being in all of remnant! We have better science, magic, and manpower then you could ever dream of!

Ironwood scowled

Ironwood: don't be so sure watts, my military can tear apart any Grimm your mistress can muster

Watts cackled

Watts: your arrogance will be your downfall general.

He placed his cane on the table

Ozpin: when we thought our technology was better, she infected the CCTV, and the atlas military, turning them against us.

Ironwoods eyes widened and watts grin widened

Watts: don't you see? We have always had a plan

Weiss paled, she had seen along with many other the power of atlas Military. If that was turned against them, then the carnage would be unstoppable.

Ironwood, winter, and clover all visibly flinched at the reminder of their failure.

Ozpin continued

Ozpin: when we thought our magic was superior, they stolen the fall maiden from under our noses and turned one of their own into the fall maiden.

Cinder grinned and ozpin sighed

Ozpin: and when we thought we would have time on our side, they attacked and destroyed beacon and the city of vale.

That silenced the Audience real quick, how could this happen?

Ozpin: view, how?

View hummed

View: a combination of multiple factors really. Cinder stole the fall maiden powers, and killed your at the time current body. She then hyjaked the Vytal festival transmission and revealed the truth of someone being behind the Grimm, spreading fear. Then a combination of infected atlas tech, Grimm and white fang stormed and sacked vale and beacon.

Blake lowered her head in sadness at the mention of the white fang, No Mater what happen they were always the bad guys.

Ozpin: but, this is not the case, and never has been.

This got the table to do a double take, what could be mean by that? They had all seen or heard of the fall of beacon, how could Salem not be winning?

Watts and cinder were both in a similar state of disbelief

Watts: how could this old fool possibly believe that? You lost ozpin! Accept it!

Cinder just scowled

Cinder: empty words, from a pathetic man.

Ozpin: we have been ahead for years, ten years in fact, since one arc joined our ranks.

The group turned towards Julia arc, who was just as shocked as them