Founder of SD Squared Labs

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It was this beautiful thing. People loved it. And sold it. I thought we were going to do an interview about that and that's what I'm all geared up for. Instead, that's kind of going to be the backstory to what ends up being the actual interview, which is this new company that is actually bigger, more substantive and it's called SD Squared.

It's got this crazy freaking business model that if I didn't know somebody who worked there, I wouldn't believe it actually existed. If anyone goes to SD Squared and has SD Squared build an app, it costs no more than $25,000 for an app on any single platform.

If it's more expensive, then they just do the work and they don't charge you any more than $25,000.

I want to know if he is losing his shirt on this. And we'll talk a little bit about this company that everyone in tech seemed to love, Nivio.

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