Transcript-Interrogation of Susan Campbell

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Transcript-Interrogation of Susan Campbell

Interrogating Officers: Sgt. Eric Renfield, Sgt. Adam Dalton

Location: 7012 Peetree Rd.-Haven Park Elementary School

Date: 10/26/2012

Time: 11:45 AM

Dalton: Thank you for meeting with us, Ms. Campbell.

Campbell: Sure. You don't mind if I eat while we speak, do you?

Dalton: No, go right ahead.

Campbell: Thanks. I've only got these few minutes for lunch while the kids are at recess. What can I help you with, Detectives?

Dalton: I have some questions about the Ludarac family. You are Cooper Ludarac's teacher, correct?

Campbell: Yes-yes, I am.

Dalton: You made a face. Is there something you would like to tell me?

Campbell: I think it's easier if I show you. Here, look at these

Renfield: Photographs?

Campbell: They sure look that way, don't they? Feel them.

Dalton: Wax?

Campbell: Crayon. Cooper drew these during my class.

Renfield: Wow. He's quite an artist. They really do look like photos. These are incredible.

Campbell: You recognize the girl?

Dalton: Lucy. They're excellent portraits.

Campbell: Those three are portraits, yes. I thought they were a tribute to her.

Renfield: They weren't?

Campbell: He drew these three the next day.

Dalton: Oh my god.

Campbell: Exactly. I've been trying to reach Dana and Jon to talk about these, but they haven't returned any of my calls.

Dalton: Did you ask Cooper about them?

Campbell: Of course. All he said was that he saw them.

Renfield: In person? That's quite impossible, Ms. Campbell.

Campbell: Sorry. I should be clearer. He meant he saw them in his head. He imagined them.

Dalton: He didn't depict an imaginary event.

Campbell: I thought those guys were acquitted.

Renfield: The charges were dropped. The jury simply couldn't reach a verdict, and the prosecuting attorney decided not to try them again.

Campbell: Well at any rate, I don't think he knew what he was drawing. It's how well he was able to draw it that's unnerving to me. That and the content, of course.

Dalton: Did you bring these to Mr. Nevin?

Campbell: Of course. He didn't think Cooper was capable of drawing them. I think he actually thought I was making it up or playing some sick joke. Then he said that he wasn't seeing Cooper anymore and it wasn't his problem.

Renfield: You brought him graphically drawn depictions of the rape of Lucy Ludarac, and he didn't feel it was relevant to mention it to anyone?

Campbell: Ask him about it. I brought them to him. I tried to tell the parents. There's not much else I can do. I'm actually a little relieved you're here. It feels good to show these to someone who cares and can actually do something about it.

Dalton: Do you mind if we take these?

Campbell: Please. Get them out of my desk for god's sake.

Dalton: Thank you.

Campbell: They're your burden now.

Dalton: Can you tell us anything about Dana or Jonathan Ludarac?

Campbell: Like I said, I haven't heard from or seen them.

Dalton: Did you teach Kayla Ludarac as well by chance?

Campbell: As a matter of fact, I did.

Dalton: Did she display any odd tendencies?

Campbell: Kayla? No, not that I recall. She was pleasant, well-liked, a good student, at least in the first grade.

Renfield: Why say that last part?

Campbell: Oh, I'm not trying to imply anything. I just didn't really interact with her after she wasn't my student anymore.

Renfield: Did you ever notice any indication of abuse?

Campbell: No, of course not. When I was teaching Kayla, as far as I was concerned, the Ludaracs were a model family.

Renfield: Did you teach Lucy?

Campbell: No. She attended first grade before I started working here.

Dalton: Well, thank you for your time, Ms. Campbell. Oh, you didn't finish your lunch. I'm sorry we kept you.

Campbell: Some things are more important.

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