Proof that “God” does not exist.


  • _Cataclysm
    _Cataclysm
    1 year ago

    @newrageguru I find it amusing how you never respond to the comments/questions directed at you.

  • newrageguru
    newrageguru
    1 year ago

    @Cataclysm Thank you. Very few questions are directed at me though but here a few answers even to the questions not directed at me!

    Some questions answered.

    Q: So the point you're trying to make is that there can't be only one God?

    A: My point is there is no “one god.”

    Q: Why does God need to have a gender/charge? Why can't God be neutral? So all-purposed?

    A: That’s kind of the point I’m getting at.

    Q The purpose, in my opinion, is to show you that what you believe is well and good, but it doesn't mean you are right. There is proof on both sides of the argument that God does or does not exist, and the argument really doesn't matter. Who do you think you're convincing?

    A: Not you obviously. Proof that god exists outside of biblical myth please anyone.

    Q: Theists aren't going to convince many atheists that God exists, and vice versa. So why are you trying to?

    A: I’m Agnostic, I believe we are all an aspect of something divine.

    Q: Are you trying to spread knowledge?

    A: Yes

    Q: So my point here is that giving this 'proof' that God doesn't exist is pointless.

    A: Just like giving proof that god exists is pointless?

    Q: Je crois en Dieu, mais je ne crois pas en l'Église en tant qu'institution ~I dunno how to say that in English, lol.

    A: The last three letters mean laugh out loud, but I don’t know what the rest is???

  • newrageguru
    newrageguru
    1 year ago

    Questions continued:

    Q: People should be able to decide for themselves whether or not they believe in a God without people incessantly telling them this or that. It's getting quite annoying to be honest.

    A: Yes, what do we do about all these religions telling us what god to believe in!

    Q: I'm sorry, but I don't think that makes you any better than 'religious ravers'?

    A: I know. But there’s just so many of them I have to do something.

    Q: No one knows that but I also refuse to think that the world came out of nothing as well. If that was the case, I'd rather kill myself than live without a purpose. Dont you agree?

    A: No way...Don’t kill yourself! I guess the up side is you won’t be going to hell!

    Q: Let me just ask, "Why do you blame God for wars?"

    A: For God said, “If they face war, they might change their minds and return to Egypt.” So God led the people around by the desert road toward the Red Sea. The Israelites went up out of Egypt ready for battle.” Exodus 13:16-18 Exodus 17:16 He said, “Because hands were lifted up against the throne of the LORD, the LORD will be at war against the Amalekites from generation to generation.” Numbers 21:14 That is why the Book of the Wars of the LORD says... Numbers 31:3 So Moses said to the people, “Arm some of your men to go to war against the Midianites so that they may carry out the LORD’s vengeance on them. 1 Samuel 15:17-19 Samuel said, “Although you were once small in your own eyes, did you not become the head of the tribes of Israel? The LORD anointed you king over Israel. 18 And he sent you on a mission, saying, ‘Go and completely destroy those wicked people, the Amalekites; wage war against them until you have wiped them out.’ 19 Why did you not obey the LORD? ...Etc,Etc,Etc....

  • ReaperKylie
    ReaperKylie
    1 year ago

    To what you said, "at least you wont burn in hell." So ur saying that when ppl die, they no longer exist? @newrageguru

  • ItalieMalie
    ItalieMalie
    1 year ago

    I should probably just stay quiet, but it amazes me how people always threaten "non-believers" with Judgement Day to try to get them to accept their one god. I saw that done in this thread.

    It doesn't do anything to us on the receiving end. Just makes you look like a petty, over-religious fool. Plus, if you're afraid of your god and think he's going to do horrible things to you if you aren't . . . that's not exactly a healthy way of thinking. I mean, maybe my religion could be called a masochist's, but it seems stupid to fear someone that's supposed to do so much good for you.

  • ReaperKylie
    ReaperKylie
    1 year ago

    Ppl fear him and love him at the same time. Love God for what he has given you and the reward that will follow when u die. Fear God if you know you are abusing his gift and know their will be consequences. That's the concept. Get it? @ItalieMalie

  • ItalieMalie
    ItalieMalie
    1 year ago

    @ReaperKylie Believe me, I get it. I grew up a Christian and never liked the practice or the way God-belief works. I don't understand why everything is, "if you do this wrong, you're going to hell!" and "if you do this, God hates you!" It's why I love my religion so much. You don't have to please anyone or beat yourself up over things you do wrong. I know so many God-believers that are either so absorbed in their faith that they're zombies or they tear themselves up because they think they aren't good enough. That's not healthy. I know I'm not reaching Nirvana in this lifetime (though I plan on a pilgrimage to the Bodhi Tree before I get too old) but I know by my next life I'll have learned things and become a better person. And I love that that's all I have to worry about. I never understood the constant need to please God. You can be a good person and have a good afterlife without going to church/synagogue/mosque and including him in everything you do. You are a person without your god.

    I respect all religions (I have Muslim, Jewish, Christian, and atheist friends) but God just isn't the philosophy for me. :)

  • ReaperKylie
    ReaperKylie
    1 year ago

    I personally believe God doesn't hate anyone and that most ppl interpret the way God feels a lot. He is almost like a parent who just witness his child steal. He'll be mad at you. He'll be sad.... but he'll never hate you.

    And I'm the same. I respect all beliefs. I just hate it when ppl go out of control over it. And Yh sure. U can be human without God but still if it weren't for him. I would have probably never existed. @ItalieMalie

  • ItalieMalie
    ItalieMalie
    1 year ago

    @ReaperKylie Technically, it's without your parents' copulation that you wouldn't have existed. But I see your point. And interesting belief. Varies from the usual one.

    I hate when people shove their beliefs down your throat too. I was abused by the Catholic school I attended in my early school years because I wasn't Catholic, then I always had people trying to force their religion on me when I was agnostic. It's one reason I've always been glad for Buddhism. It gives me a defined religion I really do believe in, and it keeps people off my back because most people respect Buddhism enough. Our 8 Noble Truths are pretty similar to the Ten Commandments, just without the aspect of divinity; when I bring that up, some will back off. We're pretty laid-back about it though. Just be a good person and you're higher up in your next life. And it's helped me learn to ignore bigots.

  • ReaperKylie
    ReaperKylie
    1 year ago

    I converted to Islam because I believed the Christian religion was really corrupted and forceful. As a Muslim, I feel the world makes more sense and its not as forceful. Actually, Islam is really peaceful but the media likes to make it look terrible and people just like to create problems for us. And I really respect the Buddhist. They are really peaceful. I wish the rest of the world was the same. @ItalieMalie

  • ItalieMalie
    ItalieMalie
    1 year ago

    @ReaperKylie I actually respect Islam more than Christianity. I know it's not as violent and suppressing as the media makes it seem (it bothers me that people could want to make a religion look like that - it just creates hatred without reason), and like you said, it's not as corrupted and forceful. It's not as hypocritical either, and I feel like it lets you be your own person more than Christianity does. Same with Judaism.

    And ack, yes. I wish the world could finally see that every person has worth, no matter what religion or sexuality or culture they are. That's another reason I love Buddhism, the fact that we're so relaxed about that thing and accept everyone. I just wish everyone would come to an understanding and try to build on the idea of peace. Everyone says it's the way to go, and it is, but I feel like no one really tries to achieve it.

  • Bekahgzm
    Bekahgzm
    1 year ago

    If God doesn't exists, then how come prayers are answered? How come people are filled with the speaking of tongues? How come people hear him and talk to him? God is neutral.

  • newrageguru
    newrageguru
    1 year ago

    Proof “god” doesn’t exist part V.

    I’m smarter than “God”! ...and I’m not that smart.

    If I was god, I’m male so that’s a good start for a deity, I wouldn’t burn anyone in hell for ever, I’d have somewhere for them to be rehabilitated.

    I wouldn’t have had to of wiped out world populations in a flood, or destroyed cities or turned people into salt because I would make the world like a huge festival where drugs enhanced your being, no food was bad for you and love reigned supreme.

    I would appear in everyone’s dream simultaneously; three times a year on specific dates so everyone would know that I was god and there would be no wars or stuff because everyone would agree.

    You can’t die until your one hundred and Just before anyone dies they smile brightly and say “It's beautiful!”, then your grandparant becomes reborn as your grand kid with full knowledge of their previous life.

    You can only give birth twice, one of each at 28 and 30. Sex is fun and not dirty and boobs never sag...

    Hey.... Maybe I’ll start a, “I’m smarter than god because?” Page!!!

  • newrageguru
    newrageguru
    1 year ago

    @Bekahgzm Your kittens look delicious!

  • _Cataclysm
    _Cataclysm
    1 year ago

    @newrageguru Again, all opinion, no fact. Maybe you should call this 'Opinion that "God" does not exist.'

  • ReaperKylie
    ReaperKylie
    1 year ago

    You are still insane. God... no! Allah will punish you for this. You can explain all you want about why you don't believe in God, but I cant sit here and watch you talk your DISGUSTING mouth about how you are smarter than him and degrade him. First off, toy cling to life too much. I believe life is just a test and isn't as important as the afterlife because that's where it matters. Second, its impossible to have world peace when humans love to create drama... like u for example. If you tell the whole world that your mission is to destroy religion, you'll just cause another war probably.... maybe one of the deadliest. And YOU would be he cause of this war. Not Allah! Whether you like it or not, you cant have too much goodness. That's not how society works. With all the hardships humans have faced, ppl have learner from them and become better. Have you noticed? @newrageguru

  • ReaperKylie
    ReaperKylie
    1 year ago

    Plus, humans weren't supposed to be perfect. Your aiming for a world where everyone is the same. Plus ur a sexist pig. Was the last part about the woman necessary. Some ppl actually are respectable toward themselves and like to only do it with the ppl they love. Sex shouldn't be some game you can play when ever you want. Then it means nothing and comes with a huge consequense and don't give me that birth control or condonm crape because ppl actually forget. You sicken me! Your mission os to stop religion? Then my mission will be to stop you and I'll get plenty of supporters as well. @newrageguru

  • newrageguru
    newrageguru
    1 year ago

    OK... Let’s get some love into this thing before we have some Jihad or something.

    Nature is a natural energy, the positive and negative working together beautifully to neutral effect. We come along, the I Am, the silent witness, that part of us that remembers. We are in our earth suits, infants, toddler, tween, teen, adult old. During this passage of time all we experience is within us.

    I do see value in spiritual writings and the bible myth and do listen to things from it like: The kingdom of god is within you (Luke 17-21) “I will prove to you then that the son of man has authority on earth to forgive sin.” Mark 2-10. (Hey...I’m the son of man, Sheesh... So are you!) And most importantly that “God”, "I Am” is not the I Am of the dead but of the living.

    These all speak of a divinity within and in fact all we have is our divinity within. All we have is this moment, this sacred moment. If we don’t embrace the now with love, passion and humour then we are not fully opening up to our true selves and our ability to be truly happy with ourselves, with our I Am.

  • newrageguru
    newrageguru
    1 year ago

    (continued) I am not against anyone’s faith. I think all people’s beliefs are cool and that they are completely individual to the individual. But if someone said to me that they believe in an invisible unicorn as the all pervasive divinity my reply would be the same as it is to someone telling the world that a man god is the all pervasive divinity. We truly need to embrace the fact that we are all deities, that our lives are incredibly important and individual and that only we experience what it is we do.

    All spiritual writing should be read as an inner map to our higher reality. We are the absolute divine, what religion could ever be made that could praise the higher embodiment of every individual on the planet. The answer, none. We alone must worship our lives in the moment as I Am, keep the temple within alive with lots of tithings and offerings, try not to hurt anyone and live life with a blossoming of love but always, always be willing to forgive yourself for then you can love others.

    Did I just rant?

    @ReaperKylie sorry I made you so angry and freaked you out. I don’t care if you don’t understand me, but you defiantly don’t have to fear me.

  • ReaperKylie
    ReaperKylie
    1 year ago

    Fear you? Ahahahahahahaha! Don't make me laugh! And you're not against anyone else's religion? DUDE, YOU JUST SAID YOU WANTED TO ABOLISH RELIGION! Are you an idiot? Obviously, you don't know what your even saying and you keep giving me references to the Bible. IM MUSLIM. I don't read the Bible you dumb a**! Love? Your aiming for a world that revolves around your RADICAL ideas. If you truly respect people's religion, you wouldn't have said you wanted to abolish religion. The prophet muhammed said, " “He who makes peace between people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar.” However, I can not believe anything that comes out of your mouth is really good. @newrageguru

  • Bekahgzm
    Bekahgzm
    1 year ago

    @newrageguru it's a stupid profile picture...It came with the account. I don't have any kittens

  • ReaperKylie
    ReaperKylie
    1 year ago

    U know u can change the profile pic right? @Bekahgzm

  • TheLocalGuerilla
    TheLocalGuerilla
    1 year ago

    @Bekahgzm Edit profile -> Change avatar -> you're free of the kittens.

  • Ninjapotato
    Ninjapotato
    1 year ago

    So you're saying that you don't believe in god, or the specific christian god? sorry I was kinda stopped reading by the third page.

  • ReaperKylie
    ReaperKylie
    1 year ago

    No. This maniac is against God in general. EVERY IDEA of God. Then he said he wanted to DESTROY RELIGION. @Ninjapotato

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