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ReaperKylie Joined: 2011-06-21 Posts: 836 |
1 year ago
Plus, also think! How does the world work? Things don't just happen. Science says that Earth is NOT a living thing so how does the Earth make earthquakes or how does the sky create rain. It just doesn't happen. Someone has to be controlling everything. |
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TheLocalGuerilla Joined: 2011-05-08 Posts: 1659 |
1 year ago
@ReaperKylie Earthquakes: Tectonic plates hitting eachother due eruptions of magma beneath it. All physics, done by Nature herself. Rain: vaporized water that cools down and becomes actual water. Also, done by Nature herself. |
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ReaperKylie Joined: 2011-06-21 Posts: 836 |
1 year ago
So are you saying that Nature is God in a way because Nature doesnt have a mind of its own. Its also controlled. @TheLocalGuerilla |
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TheLocalGuerilla Joined: 2011-05-08 Posts: 1659 |
1 year ago
@ReaperKylie Never said Nature is a god, but well. Nature is a term for the law of physics we know in this universe. And it's not controlled. Are you? |
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ReaperKylie Joined: 2011-06-21 Posts: 836 |
1 year ago
No. Because God has given me the right of free expression. He does not choose things for me. That is because in the end, I will be judged for what I choose. As for nature and physics and everything else, they were made by God to serve us and to just express the beauty of our world and God's power. Plus, where do all the forces of physics come from? Tell me this! @TheLocalGuerilla |
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TheLocalGuerilla Joined: 2011-05-08 Posts: 1659 |
1 year ago
@ReaperKylie Where does god come from? |
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ReaperKylie Joined: 2011-06-21 Posts: 836 |
1 year ago
No one knows that but I also refuse to think that the world came out of nothing as well. If that was the case, I'd rather kill myself than live without a purpose. Dont you agree? @TheLocalGuerilla |
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TheLocalGuerilla Joined: 2011-05-08 Posts: 1659 |
1 year ago
@ReaperKylie No. Because our purpose is procreation: keeping a species alive at any cost. But we refuse to think that since we're sentient. |
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ReaperKylie Joined: 2011-06-21 Posts: 836 |
1 year ago
Ok, but how did human beings come to exist. Face facts! Without God, we would have never existed! @TheLocalGuerilla |
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TheLocalGuerilla Joined: 2011-05-08 Posts: 1659 |
1 year ago
@ReaperKylie I could ask you the same again about god, but you refuse to know. You underestimate the power of microbes. |
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ReaperKylie Joined: 2011-06-21 Posts: 836 |
1 year ago
I'm laughing right now. God created everything. Microbes... Science itself.... never would have existed without God to create it. But I'm not going to say anymore. When the day of judgement finally comes and you finally see the almighty being known as God, or Allah as I like to call him, then you will regret what you said. Have a good day :) @TheLocalGuerilla |
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TheLocalGuerilla Joined: 2011-05-08 Posts: 1659 |
1 year ago
@ReaperKylie Nice defense. Though, I won't regret every word I said. Seeya. |
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ReaperKylie Joined: 2011-06-21 Posts: 836 |
1 year ago
Ok :) @TheLocalGuerilla |
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newrageguru Joined: 2012-03-28 Posts: 1429 |
1 year ago
Proof that “God” doesn’t exist part IV OK, quick recap. God can’t exist because it has a feminine aspect the goddess and is only real if you want to believe that a male vibration birthed existence. Traditionally the name of existence and that energy which flows through all is nameless or called things to donate to the nameless; like the Tao. The closest we come to a name within the Old Testament mythology about what we should call “god” comes with Moses when told that the biblical god is to be called the I Am. No gender...but why I Am. Well nature is natural, things happen within the natural world without malice or retribution. The only thing that brings an alternating energy, a force dealing in retribution or reward to our being is the fact that we as humans exist. Our energy brings to us situations and events filtered through our consciousness. As higher beings we know that wrong or right exist, no other being does. This awareness separates us from everything else on the planet. So as beings separate from the rest of nature we work on laws outside of nature, a higher law specific to us as individual humans. This law works on a cause and effect modality, this energy that is inherent within us EG: what you give is what you get, birds of a feather flock together, live by the sword die by the sword, etc. |
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newrageguru Joined: 2012-03-28 Posts: 1429 |
1 year ago
(Continued) Contentment, joy and great love come from a life lived within the positive. This is a proven and known fact. You do not have to be a Christian, Muslim, Jew, Hari Krishna or from any religion to have these emotions fill your life, they are just a fact of it. Same for if you want to be negative, live in the negative and you will be part of the negative. These energies are the heaven and hells of the bible but are tied to and owned directly by you. But the underlying energy that drives all of this is love, the love I Am. This places the divine directly within us and our experience, which is an absolute anyway. No one can experience life the way we do as individuals. We own these experiences. The core of all is love, but only we have been given free will on this energy plain with the understanding that we must choose the positive over the negative to live more fulfilled and cherished lives. This does not require worship of a god outside of us, and in fact just confuses us in our purpose. How can anyone possibly love to their full potential when they are fighting wars, living with bigotry, hold prejudice and believe in superiority because of the “God” they worship. If god did exist, he wouldn’t if we didn’t. |
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drDevil Joined: 2011-06-19 Posts: 2871 |
1 year ago
@ReaperKylie Why can't you call it 'it'? |
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ReaperKylie Joined: 2011-06-21 Posts: 836 |
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To call God "it" is degrading him. Do you call your mother "it"? @drDevil |
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ReaperKylie Joined: 2011-06-21 Posts: 836 |
1 year ago
Let me just ask, "Why do you blame God for wars?" I believe that the people themselves are the reasons behind all of this. Sure, religion is their reason why we fight each other but its not like God told is to hate eachother. Actually, he never told us. I used to be Christian so I know in both the Bible and Quran that God never told us to hate or kill one another just because we were a different religion. Plus, the Christians, Muslims, and Jews, all believe in the same God even though some cant accept that.... its the truth -_- @newrageguru |
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epitome_of_happiness Joined: 2012-01-21 Posts: 33 |
1 year ago
You're right. We are the reasons for many of our issues, God made is with free will and we've decided to abuse that. Poverty is of our doing, war is of our doing, all of these other issue we blame God for are also of our doing. |
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ReaperKylie Joined: 2011-06-21 Posts: 836 |
1 year ago
Thank you! I hate it when everyone blames God for every single bad thing that happens. And when he does summon up things like tornadoes, tsunamis.... he does it for a reason. Not because he hates everyone. I truly believe God is more merciful than angry. @epitome_of_happiness |
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drDevil Joined: 2011-06-19 Posts: 2871 |
1 year ago
@ReaperKylie Contrary to popular opinion, but mother does have a sex. We don't call the air, water or sky a he or a she, do we? |
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ReaperKylie Joined: 2011-06-21 Posts: 836 |
1 year ago
Again, the term "it" degrades a person and is especially an insult to God. -_- @drDevil |
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TerryP Joined: 2011-02-28 Posts: 112 |
1 year ago
From my Peace Corps notes of July 8, 1964 taken during a lecture by an anthropologist from the University of Nevada. "The concept of the god-head is not a person to the Gola (tribe in Liberia). Not a her or she. It's more an IT. DIA(IT) is impersonal and removed from immediate accessibility. It is FIRST BEING, CREATOR. ONE who knows all in a mysterious way unlike 0->." (Here is where I drew the symbol for male in my notebook). So to this impersonal god, the lecturer said, would go something like this, 'Oh, DIA, give to my givers that he (they)may give to me that I may give to thee.' There's a hierarchy under DIA: lesser beings, older spirits, ancestors, elders (still living) older adults, adults to children. There are also roaming spirits, evil spirits-rejected by , Geni (like elves) even Nemet, guiding spirits, Mountain spirits and swamp spirits with real power (it is believed) So not every culture conceives god as male or female. |
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ReaperKylie Joined: 2011-06-21 Posts: 836 |
1 year ago
That's because God isn't male nor female. However, God definately isn't IT either. Btw.... why are we still stuck on this gender thing. Anyone have another reason why ppl supposedly don't believe in God besides gender? @TerryP |
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TerryP Joined: 2011-02-28 Posts: 112 |
1 year ago
@ReaperKylie I am by no means a member of the Gola tribe in Liberia. If I were, I might very well be a Christian or a Muslim. For they also are represented among the religions there. If you are asking me if God has physical attributes like Zeus on Olympus, I am hardly saying that. There's hardly any single way of speaking about God. "God is love" or "God is spirit" is said, While I realize that the best attributes in both male and female might reasonably be said to reside in God, it is not so outlandish that Jesus spoke of God as Father. Now, setting aside Christian claims of Jesus' nature, he nevertheless makes God more personal. "Am I not a God near and not a God far off?" a prophet asked. Now, I was excerpting from lecture notes I wrote down 48 years ago. |