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@SecretMae Not what I meant, I was implying that its according to an indiviual choice not a general status qoe as you were making that point. We already stated that's its an indiviual believes in marriage last forever or not.

Lets think of it the other way around, people changing for the better just not changing in harmony with his/her partner. People change all the time like you said stuff happens. What then?

Dee

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What then what? They either fix things or break up.

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@SecretMae Do you agree with my statement about the point I was implying?

I don't know, it goes back to one of the commenters on this thread, not sure if was you, someone stated "freedom of will" in responce to my statement. I guess it goes with your statement.

If, who ever you believe in, gives one freedom of will then he/she shouldn't be bound by anything even marriage to be forever. Theorically, of that freedom of will one can get out of it.

I guess it's a question of morals really; is it enough to live up to the standards they have for one another and whether a couple can stand together through thick and thin aside from the differences they have?

Do you think its a question of morals than a question of spiritualty?

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It would be a nice thing to think that we have a soul mate as they would say somewhere in our world but I doubt it. Humans fall in love because they have to. To reproduce, we find another person who we judge is good enough and then have sex with them to have a baby. Afterwards, there is often the chance that the two will split up or maybe stay on together, probably to have more children. Love is a difficult thing which effects women the most - they are more likely to have their hearts broken.

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@Sierra256715 I understand your point about finding another person compatable with someone. There is a lot of people on this planet and they change all the time.

I can even be as bold as to say everyday, your tastes, likes, & dislikes can change in an instant. Someone who likes someone when they're both young might not like each other when they're older.

Are you talking about the deeply-ingrained hereditary human trait to find another person & make a baby so they can protect their own genes to carry on their gene pool?

Dee

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@writing_dreamer I suppose it doesn't matter what I think.

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@SecretMae :O Yes it does. Your opinion matters. That's why I question your opinion because I care about it

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Well I don't know, I am tired so I fear I may be to blunt. If you aren't going to take vows to heart then don't say them. I respect all who marry all who get divorced. Who am I to give my opinion to them... I know a few on the verge of it myself. However, I don't think its right but whatever its them not me. Sorry if I am blunt right now.

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@SecretMae It is okay that you are blunt. I like people who get to the point.

I've heard a saying- say what you mean and mean what you say, but remember what you said about people changing -stuff happens. Lives change, people change.

It becomes a question of morals than anything else as a responce to your statement. What made you believe this rather than the opposite view?

See

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@writing_dreamer I am not sure. I witnessed people my entire life be on the verge of divorce. It appears to be no love even though those people say they do. Sometimes it seems like they don't even try. They are letting it happen it seems. Some of these people I am close to. Simple as that. Plus I believe in love so yeah lol

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@SecretMae Ok, so your views are based on experience. I think the majority of the world would use the same technique.

Just to make sure we are one the same page, lets define love. It's a broad term used many times in this discussion and it didn't occur to me until now to actually define it.

Dee

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@writing_dreamer As a Christian, I could not describe love any better than the following passage

"Love us patient and kind, Love does not envy or boast, It is not arrogant or rude It is not irriatable or resentful. It does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, hopes all things, ensures all things, (True) love never fails...." I Corin. 13:4-8

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@fakeredhead ah the biblical version. Alright, define that- the passage is so broad and has so much packed into it- it's confusing to understand for me.

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That is one of my favorite verses @fakeredhead i love that verse.

how is that verse confusing @writing_dreamer ? It is defining what love is and what it is to feel love.

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@SecretMae it is a definition of what it is but doesn't tell me much. It's like defining a broad word with broad termonolgy. Lets me take pieces of @fakeredhead quote to better explain myself. "Love is patient and kind..." that does not have a specific defintion, theres definition within that definition for patient and kind. Patient can mean either to bear stuff without complain or to be steadfast despite the opposing environment, to be kind can mean within nature, family, lineage, or manner. That quote can be interpreted so many ways because it's so broad and I just took the first part of a sentance.

The bible was written years ago in a different language, after being interpreted in many languages before english and having multiple series throughout the years, defition of words will change. Just look at England and the US for a modern version. They speak the same language but half of their meanings in words is completly different.

What does love mean to you?

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@writing_dreamer I don't know how you can get much more simpler then that bible verse though. Its to bad you don't understand its meaning. Perhaps you are looking at it in to much of a broad perspective. What does love mean to you?

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@SecretMae There's too many definitions for one word even used in a certain context. Everyone has different viewpoints on anything. I really don't know what it means, that's why I'm asking for everyone's viewpoint on it. From friends and family I hear multiple definitions, rhetoric, some examples of the word instead of defining it.

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@writing_dreamer In extremely simple terms to me love is God. God is the embodiment of the highest degree of love, nobody can love more than He does. So to me Love is that all attractive Supreme Personality of Godhead who can never be measured, who can never be bound, except He lets Himself be bound by the love of His pure devotees. That amazing Supreme Person is my definition of love. =)

Sorry if I confused you, but in my heart, that's what love means to me. =D

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@writing_dreamer Love embodies all if the characteristics I decribed in the verse above. Some languages have different types if love - love for parents/siblings, love/enjoyment of food/activity... Then there is love for your mate, and a love for your children.

Love for your mate, is a deep overwhelming feeling of respect, appreciation, and friendship. You cannot imagine your life without this person in your life. You may think you are in love several times. However, when the right person comes along, this feeling will be soo much deeper than what you felt before; there will no other word in the English word to describe than LOVE. Hit you over the head with a stick love.

In the same manner, you will love your children so much, that you want to protect them from every bad thing.

Unless you felt this feeling before, it's hard to describe, but no way you can miss it when you feel it.

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@writing_dreamer Well many times people use examples to define love because the correct word simply does not exist. To correctly define love would be like understanding the mysteries of the universe. Many things in life are left unanswered and the answer to why people love and what it is to love is something someone has to experience themselves. It isn't something we can easily google and understand. Love is the best feeling in the world. People can and would not exist if it were not for love.

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@TheWholeTruth Got a new reader, awesome! Your answer is based upon God, but my question is what or who is God? Your defintion of Him is within itself vague, are you describing him as an idea, spirit, or a universal link? I do see your point about your views on love though but I need a clearer defintion of what you are basing your answer on.

@fakeredhead It probably does when speaking of love as a verb but the verse did not define it. Yes, I'll like to call them the branches of love because they're so many.

I have a deep level of respect, appreciation, and friendship for everyone I meet including the responders of this thread (thank you for listening to me babble) The more I talk to everyone, the more I get to know them. Does that make everyone my mate?

I love your anology "hit you over the head with a stick" that made me laugh. You described how do you feel when your in love but now you say the feelings get deeper when you meet the right person- do you mean the feeling gets more intense?

Children, parents, and friends I'll stay away from only because that will bring up a larger discussion leading away from the main topic but I agree with you on those different types of love.

@SecretMae If we do not understand it, why would we exist for it? We would have to experience it to define it according to you, there is no standard tangible for the word. So what would you call it? After reading everyone comments I can see each of our understanding for the word differs at some level even though we have or can not define it... yet.

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@writing_dreamer Well, I'm not a christian or a muslim so I'm not quick to put out my direct views out there for the reason that everybody isn't open minded. But I have absolutely no problem in disclosing everything if a person is curious or wishes to know. So before I can answer your question precisely without any vagueness ;P - are you open minded enough to see merit in a concept or answer that may not match up to your own beliefs or the ones that you've commonly heard of?

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@TheWholeTruth :) of course, it's the reason why I opened up this discussion. I want to hear what you all think. I would love if a person has a different view point than someone else. It makes an interesting conversation. I only state things that are decided by others to make new questions or for them to further explain their thoughts on the subject

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@writing_dreamer I hope you find your answers, good luck

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@SecretMae :( you're leaving?

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