Proof that “God” does not exist.

@tyrant_209 blaming what on "God"?

Enlighten me please:)

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@newrageguru What ever in your life that u had problems with.... Relationships loss of a family member wat ever

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@tyrant_209 Did you read MY blog???

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@newrageguru yes i did and thats wat it looks like is you are mad at God.... u never accually answered my question

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@EmoPrincess209 What question was that?

How can I be mad at something I don't believe in? And if I was and say that the church was to blame, why would your god then allow me to lose my faith in him, forever? So he can send me to hell for eternity? What a prick.

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@newrageguru you may think you dont belive in.. wat do you belive in... do u belive that God does not exist as a "god" or as the God that made heven and earth

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I so desperately want to reply to this thread, but I know that then I'll either get scolded or flooded by people that think they know best. But I tend to agree with the OP, for different reasons.

There has never been proof that a god exists, in every era there will be groups of people who manage to convince others that they have to follow a deity or power greater than them; the egyptians had their gods, the romans, the greeks. Thing is that people are gullible and incapable of thinking for themselves in many ways.

Even the world leaders could be considered to be 'gods', because isn't it true that they have people that look up to them? People that think their word is truth and should be spread? (WOII anyone?) Once I read a passage that said: 'So many people, they can't be wrong, can they?' But they CAN be wrong, because where did they get their 'truth' from? A book that was written - by HUMAN hands, humans make mistakes all the time, are making them as you read this.

No, I don't think 'God' exists, rather a very powerful and very convincing group of people that I would almost admire for keeping on to a lie for so long and managing to get so many others to believe it.

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@Daenerys-A1988 Hi. I got no particular disagreement with you per se. Although I have studied Bible extensively, I tend to agree with you about world leaders. It's not that we consider them "god." But given enough power, they can be more self-serving than any concept of God in the Bible. The deity asked 10% max. Man, he left them off easy. . Just think. The Law of the Sea Treaty is up for ratification in our United States Senate. What does this treat crafted under the auspices of the UN ask of my sovereign nation? . Only HALF OF THE ROYALTIES from the money we make drilling for oil in our own territorial waters! Who gets it? The UN! . The UN Oil for Peace Peogram filled unelected bureaucrats pockets with BIg Euros or whatever your preferred currency. . I am well aware of the guile that religious types are capable of as they line their pockets BUT that is chump change to how a world government can suck the very life out of citizens. . You saw Hunger Games? That will be the United States if our Senate is stupid enough to ratify an irreversible treaty. There are more treaties that two-bit, would-be world rulers for our Sanate's consideration. . Is this Satan? That's one way to see it. But my late philosophy professor told us, "Organizations tend to exist for themselves, to seek power at the expense of others." Their lofty intents are a ruse. Imagine the next few years of unchecked power by unelected authority. . They may not order you to bow down and worship. . But they might order you to kiss their proverbial annuses or tell you to bend over. . Not that you'll actually feel it literally, but you will have been royally screwed (if you'll pardon the expression) nevertheless in a way that a Hitler, Stalin, Mao, or Pol Pot I would have envied.

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@newrageguru Sorry. I posted here by mistake. I am still not discussing your personal beliefs in forum. If I do, it will be in a p.m. See you.

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@EmoPrincess209 Wat do I believe in...

NRG: I believe that we are all an embodiment of a divine reality, that it is immediate and present. I believe we live we die. I believe that when we die, we are either eternal or snuffed out forever. That we are basically an energy consciousness working within a 3 dimensional energy. I believe in Karma and that it is also omnipresent and individual. This makes me believe that I Am-Christ-Lord...and so are you.

Emo: do u believe that God does not exist as a "god" or as the God that made heaven and earth.

NRG: Heaven and earth are kind of like the higher dimension this dimension thing, or a way of representing what is within everyone, polarity. Good/evil - Jesus/Devil etc.

If I choose to call an energy that has birthed a consciousness within us, with a desire to push us to being more loving beings than yes, you could call it god, except god is only half of the equation because of the goddess blah blah blah.

Then it gets deep.

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@newrageguru Hi. The truth is, we can never understand God fully. God is supreme, and above human understanding. God created this world. There is no way a blast of energy suddenly exploded and the earth formed. It's like saying one day, I woke up, and to my surprise, a car just appeared in my garage, made from metal scraps left behind the day before. Surely, there must have been someone who put it together. God is not energy. Like I said earlier, God surpasses out human understanding, but we know that He loves us dearly as He sent His son, Jesus, to die on the cross to save all our sins. God is not male, He is beyond male and female, He is three persons, God the Father, God the Son (Jesus) and God the Holy Spirit. God is beyond our limited human understanding, but all we have to do is trust in Him, and we will be saved.

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God DOES exist. proof is everything around you. it cant ust come out of no where, also if you talk to certain people they can tell you that the have TALKed with God and have signifigant things in their life happen that can only be God.

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@JazDance Enough proof to disprove, I guess?

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@newrageguru I'm too lazy to read the whole thread, but I will say what I think.

What you say is true about energy. And yes, God is referred to as male in the bible. But God does have a female counterpart. The church. Over and over again in scripture the church is referred to as "the bride of Christ". This male-female relationship in energy is not proof of God's non-existence, but rather just the opposite.

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@ShatteredPromises @Random_Creativity:

And when I turned I saw seven golden lampstands, and among the lampstands was someone like a son of man... and the seven lampstands are the seven churches.

The seven churches seem to be within according to revelations. The lamp stands, the churches seem to relate to energy points within the “son of man.” We are all the son (or daughters) of man and this belief is along the lines of the eastern belief relating to the seven point chakra system.

You who believe the bible as the “Word of God” need to understand that it was written by man, changed by man and translated by men 1500 years ago (and yesterday) to relate to a man god up in heaven out there somewhere. It’s all they understood back in those superstitious dark ages. The bible is not historical! Now of course we understand that heaven is not out there somewhere, that hell is not down there and that actually “god” (for want of a better word) is within.

No one knows how the universe came to be but we do know that with science we can move past superstition and start looking at existence from the quantum perspective that we are co creators in the equation of life.

My divinity is within, as is yours. My belief is within, as is yours. Everything we experience comes through our senses to be assed and assimilated from within. Jesus was “Gods” son as much as we are. Wasn’t it Jesus who said that we will do greater things than he...? That doesn’t even make us equal to him but better.

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Okay, let me summarise what you are arguing for. 1. God is male 2. The Bible is written by Man 3. God is superstition 4. Man created life

Like I said, God is above human understanding. Since in the Bible, He refers to himself as God the Father, we refer to Him as He, even though he surpasses our understanding. True, the Bible is written by man, but it is God's Living Word. God used Man to write his word. Look at the dead sea scrolls, even archeologists agree that Jesus existed, with all the corroboration from the four scriptures. Even other religions agree that Jesus existed. Look around you. Do you think that everything suddenly came in place? Do you think that the earth suddenly came to be out of nowhere, and that it was positioned right where it could support life? Do you think that man suddenly appeared on the face of the earth and flowers and animals suddenly existed? Do you think that blasts of energy suddenly appeared in space and formed all the planets and the stars, so far out that man cannot even see them? There surely must have been a creator right? It couldn't be that one day man appeared, all his organs all doing a specific function to keep him alive and all his complex systems working together. Man created life? Does that even make sense? Men die every day. How can they be the "co creaters" of life when they can't even stay alive themselves? Men fade and they die, and they either go to heaven or to hell. They don't just die and be trapped in eternal limbo or something. I can't believe you even think that we a better than Jesus! Jesus is God! If you say we're better than Him, you're saying that you're better than God, who created you! It's just beyond our understanding. Jesus is God, and He is God the Father's son. Which verse says that Jesus told man they would accomplish more things than Him? He created the universe and every thing on this earth, can we accomplish more than that? @newrageguru

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@ShatteredPromises you said: Okay, let me summarise what you are arguing for. 1. God is male 2. The Bible is written by Man 3. God is superstition 4. Man created life Like I said, God is above human understanding.

NRG: The universe is beyond human understanding, “God” is a construct of man.

SP: Since in the Bible, He refers to himself as God the Father, we refer to Him as He, even though he surpasses our understanding.

NRG: I thought “he” referred to “himself” as the I Am.

SP: True, the Bible is written by man, but it is God's Living Word.

NRG: What does this even mean...

SP: God used Man to write his word. Look at the dead sea scrolls, even archeologists agree that Jesus existed, with all the corroboration from the four scriptures.

SP: Yes, and did you no that there is a Gnostic text written around the same time that states that Jesus hung out on earth for another five years and talked to both Mary’s and his disciples regarding stuff that wasn’t used because, well because it just didn’t fit.

SP: Even other religions agree that Jesus existed.

NRG: Those other religions with the wrong god.

SP: Look around you. Do you think that everything suddenly came in place? Do you think that the earth suddenly came to be out of nowhere, and that it was positioned right where it could support life? Do you think that man suddenly appeared on the face of the earth and flowers and animals suddenly existed?

NRG: This is what religions believe!

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SP: Do you think that blasts of energy suddenly appeared in space and formed all the planets and the stars, so far out that man cannot even see them? There surely must have been a creator right?

NRG: Yes... an Alien creator that formed us. Jesus was an artificially inseminated birth by superior alien beings, the eastern star that the wise men followed was an alien space ship. How else could Jesus do the things he did... Alien powers.

SP: It couldn't be that one day man appeared, all his organs all doing a specific function to keep him alive and all his complex systems working together. Man created life? Does that even make sense? Men die every day. How can they be the "co creaters" of life when they can't even stay alive themselves?

NRG: Wow, never heard of evolution? Man created life... yeah with the help of woman.

SP: Men fade and they die, and they either go to heaven or to hell.

NRG: Yes they do... Sure they do...

SP: They don't just die and be trapped in eternal limbo or something.

NRG: Well I’m glad you know what happens when you die!

SP: I can't believe you even think that we a better than Jesus!

NRG: Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves. Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.

SP: Jesus is God!

NRG: Than how come the Son can do nothing by himself. He needs his Father... Oh hang he needs “Our Father.” Woops, our father, does that make us all children of god? Of course it does.

SP: If you say we're better than Him, you're saying that you're better than God, who created you!

NRG: I didn’t say it the bible did.

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SP: Jesus is God, and He is God the Father's son.

NRG: The Father of Jesus is our father to according to the bible.

SP: He created the universe and every thing on this earth, can we accomplish more than that?

NRG: No HE did not. The maths of the universe is polarity, a union of positive and negative an energy of masculine and feminine. This energy is inherent within us all, we own it, it is us.

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@ShatteredPromises @JazDance THANK YOU THANK U THANK U... finnaly someone else is helping me say God exists.... i just skip over gurus post now unless he calls me out directly.... Do u guys support me when i say that God says he is coming back in with fire and such... if Guru says he is I-Am then did the world miss something and we are all sinners... if so y is he still here

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@newrageguru I don't want to debate over controversial concept but your "Proof" of that god does not exist is invalid and nobody can prove whether god is real or god is fake until we all face death or via human extinction. Fighting and debating over this is just complete useless. So, it's better to let people believe in what they want to believe about "god."

As @Robinn mentioned on a quote: Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind. ~Albert Einstein

By the way, god has no gender whatsoever.

Cheers :)

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@Darkness77 Thanks for your impute and agreement over gender and I do agree that proof either way is limited. But my belief is in the empowering of the individual by placing divinity squarely back onto us... where it should be. I dislike the segregation and xenophobia associated with religion and a belief in the superiority of one religion over another while looking at a man god out there somewhere. At our core we are all equal, blessed and divine.

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Listen, we, humans, are spiritual beings. We like to believe and worship things.

Beliefs: Watching horror or sci-fi movies for example (Could there really be another universe... someone in the closet that will jump out and rip my jaw out?) Another example is creatures and legends; unicorns, zombie apocalypse, whatever.

God wants us to realize we're on the wrong road, the wrong path, and give our own hearts to him, through the hard times and such, that we would just come back to him for forgiveness, because our loving God cares. I was once reading the book of Psalms (somewhere between 30 and 40) and I fell upon a passage saying that God is the archer and He shoots us, and it hurts (bad things happen), but if we ask forgiveness and notice we've got it all wrong, He'll take the arrow out and be he healer, he loves us.

Worship: This ones kind of obvious; we all worship something. Whether Religion, Self-Esteem, Power, Money, Science, Beauty, Celebrities, Popularity, Sex... it's almost endless. But God wants us to look up and worship him, because he's the only one worthy of it, I mean, what man could create a world so beautiful and amazing. Who could let someone rip and tear you apart, piece by piece, and still love them, and want them to be their friend. God wants us.

I would rather believe in something that has changed millions of people throughout hundreds and hundreds of years, their lives, actions, everything, than to a man who decided that the world just appeared from nowhere.

@newrageguru

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Cont> What does it take for me to believe? Love. Joy. Peace. Fill in the blank. Try to explain to me how science invented those things. I look at animals and don't see much emotion in them, apart from instincts. Those are things God made, can't you see it? Nature. What can lead to the amazing things before our eyes. I know your response will be 'evolution'...But really, think for a bit. If science proves evolution, then why does it prove that now there's only about 5% of all wildlife there used to be. Including dinosaurs, and several types of monkeys... ? Because God created them. All of them, in on word. I'm amazed too. God tells us that those who choose to believe will be greatly rewarded, and those who don't, well, Satan will decide. On that subject, I believe in the devil too. He tempts us, everybody, me, you. If you don't believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God, and he came from heaven to die on the cross to forgive our sins, and you've heard of it, it's proof that you're being led by the devil's ways, and it also means you're a human. Every human gets temptations, to sin I mean. I don't know about you, but I would steal candy from my parents even if they told me not too, I would imagine myself beating someone up. Satan has power. But not as much as God.

If you simply ask God to come into your life and lead you to where he wants you to go, that you want to have a relationship with him, and sincerely want it, then Heaven is at your reach.

@newrageguru

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In the end, if you're just a simply stubborn human (the devil capturing you) well then face the odds:

If you don't believe in God and you're right after you die, well you don't earn anything, you're dead.

If you don't believe in God, but you're wrong after you die, well you then live a bitter eternal life in hell.

If you believe in God, but you're wrong, well you don't earn anything apart from a better life on Earth.

And finally If you do Believe in God and you're right, you'll live a miraculous, indescribable, amazing eternal life in Heaven, we're there will be no more tears or pain. This is the only choice that gives you a win! Choose life today!

May God show himself to you in one way or the other, may you guide him to his will. And please God, have mercy on us humans as we face the world today, with sin and all, that we may just have a kink in our heart pushing us, saying there's something wrong, and lead us to you. Amen.

~Over and Out. @newrageguru

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