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TerryP Joined: 2011-02-28 Posts: 109 |
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@JohnHStyles Nevertheless, Protestant and Catholics both use an English Bible translation known as the New Revised Standard Version. Our differences come from the extended meanings we give to the OT and NT. There are honest differences nevertheless among Jews and Christians, of course. The big disaggreement here is not with the writer's premise of humans possessing divinity but his insistence that the NT supports that premise. But to do that, @newrageguru has to ignore everything else about Jesus. Jesus just didn't know what he was talking about evidently. Further, while Christians differ on the "rapture," he dismisses it as "crap," in spite of its mention by Paul in the NT. If that were not enough, he has annoyed Christians as changing us with lying about God. Otherwise, when his premise is not made at the expense of other sincere people, I have let it alone. Thank you for your comments. |
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_JohnS_2 Joined: 2011-01-21 Posts: 11594 |
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@TerryP "Nah, I just meant that it's all going in circles. Nothing new coming up - just the same old arguments in the same words." was actually targeted at you three, not at the material all of you brought up itself. It's about the way you're communicating with each other - which is kind of amusing for me. |
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TerryP Joined: 2011-02-28 Posts: 109 |
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@JohnHStyles At my college the Bible and philosophy profs were one in the same. It prepared me for everything but trouble shooting that also includes computer logic and the effects of the increased numbers of women in seminaries schools have had on theological terms. I will no lose my composure here. Enjoy. |
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newrageguru Joined: 2012-03-28 Posts: 1287 |
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@JohnHStyles I agree. Let’s finish it. A man god does not exist because: Science, psychology, spiritual writings all pertain to a higher consciousness within us commonly known as the higher self, this could be construed as being the I Am, Moses spoke of or the Father Jesus talked to in the bible myths. We have a consciousness; I was born into this reality and therefore I Am the son of man. In this three dimensional consciousness exist positive, negative and neutral, played out between our ego (D'evil consciousness) and our divinity (Christ consciousness). There is karmic law, the “what you give is what you get, careful what you ask for, birds of a feather” type of law/Lord This is all happening within us. There is nothing else. We are nothing else. But we are so much more than we can even imagine. I Am-Christ-Lord. |
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TerryP Joined: 2011-02-28 Posts: 109 |
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@JohnHStyles While I disagree with @newrageguru on key points, my main antithetical arguments have already been made previously. Having stated that he should be allowed to summarize his final thoughts, I myself offer no further rebuttal to his last detailed comments. I appeal to others who also vehemently disagreed with him not declare him anathema in one last diatribe. Let readers themselves decide whether they disagree or agree with him. On a personal note, sorry we will not continue to entertain you, John. See you. |
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Hardy_Boyz Joined: 2012-02-10 Posts: 587 |
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@newrageguru But wait, there's more... A higher conscience? or spiritual maturity? You mentioned before (post #52) Why does God need to have a gender/charge? Why can't God be neutral? So all-purposed? **I say; Perhaps God is neutral. God designed us before the foundation of the worlds. Jesus calls the one who is in heaven “Father.” Does this mean He (God-the Father) has a penis? I would guess no, but my guess is as good as your guess. The bible also refers to wisdom as a “she.” God knows the beginning from the end. He would have to explain things to us in a way that we could understand it throughout the ages, He would have to explain it to us as undeveloped man. We have 3 stages to development. 1. “Natural man” (who thinks according to his flesh only.) 2. “Carnal man” (who is born of the spirit but remains spiritually immature) and 3. “Spiritual man” (who is born of the spirit and is led by the spirit into maturity.) When He (God) said “Let us make man in our image” was he talking about male specifically or was he talking about spirit man with a soul and a body? Our spirits (bible calls “inner man”) are not created with a gender factor, however our bodies have been (for the purpose of reproducing.) Our soul (mind-will-emotion) is connected with our body. Male thinks & behaves differently than women think & behave. The bible says that male was created first, then female because she was taken from man. Both male and female were clothed in the glory of God. The bible doesn’t say that they physically made children together until after the fall. The bible does not lead us to believe that they had any physical contact. Eve was created to complete & help Adam. It was after the fall when they suddenly realized they were naked and were ashamed. |
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Hardy_Boyz Joined: 2012-02-10 Posts: 587 |
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Cont>They were thrown out of the garden of Eden (most likely Eden was not a geographical but some sort of outer dimension.) When Adam & Eve were cast out of the garden, many things happened; They were now in Satan’s territory. Remember when Satan tempted Jesus…he promised his kingdom (a portion of earth.) Now Adam would be higher than Eve (He would rule over her.) When God created a savior, he had to come in the form of a man otherwise the foolish people would reject the notion of a woman/savior. You see in Satan’s world man rules over his helper (his partner, his mate.) That will never change…man will always desire to rule over others and make a name for himself. Even you illustrate that with your creative doctrine. Note; Matthew 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. **We will not be bound in marriage. We will not be ruled by our flesh. We wont have the desires of the flesh (sorry for the Muslims who mater themselves in the name of Allah, who think that there will be 70 virgins waiting for them.) Furthermore, God the Trinity is often described as God-the Father (who is head of the household.) God-the Son (who is our friend “there is no greater friend but one who would lay down His life for another.” He is our high priest, our intercessor.) & God-the Spirit (our teacher, our guide & our comforter)=feminine. Our family circle in the flesh agrees with the balance. Father, Mother & Friend. |
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Hardy_Boyz Joined: 2012-02-10 Posts: 587 |
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Cont>Another point (post #63) You said; “If I was god, I’m male so that’s a good start for a deity, I wouldn’t burn anyone in hell for ever, I’d have somewhere for them to be rehabilitated.” **I say; Since we are living in Satan’s realm…it would be Satan who puts people in hell. The Hebrew verbs in the O.T. illustrate God putting sickness and death upon people but in fact the verb written in the Hebrew is a permissive verb (meaning He will allow it.) It is not His wish but He allows us (man with freewill) to use our own words to create our destiny and He allows us to have what we say. God is merciful. He allows us to obtain His own spirit to guide us but if we knowingly reject Him, then we use our freewill to live with the outcome. Jesus died and went to hell, while He was there, He preached the ones who were held captive there (sounds like he gave them a second chance.) I don’t believe that there is one person who will end up in hell who didn’t make the conscience choice to reject his loving maker. I speculate that we know more of the supernatural realm including God, Jesus & demons in our dreams, then as we wake up, we live according to the flesh. The Holy Spirit is given to us to rehabilitate us during this age of grace where Gods goodness is poured out as he disposes favor upon us. |
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Hardy_Boyz Joined: 2012-02-10 Posts: 587 |
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Cont>You said; “I wouldn’t have had to of wiped out world populations in a flood, or destroyed cities or turned people into salt because I would make the world like a huge festival where drugs enhanced your being, no food was bad for you and love reigned supreme.” ***I say; As sin grows, the earth feels the pain…right now the earth is travailing, which is a sign of the soon return of Jesus. There will be more earthquakes, hurricanes and other so-called “natural disasters.” The bible says that it is Satan who kills, steals and destroys. God came to give us life and life more abundantly. We have the freewill to die in a flood, a car accident or as a pillar of salt. Drugs are part of Satan’s demonic force under the spirit of Pharmacia. Which is where we get the name pharmaceutical from. We don’t need drugs. Many people have had surgeries without drugs (rather with the laying of hands and being in the spirit.) Look at Adam, God caused him to fall asleep when He removed one of his ribs to create Eve. There were no drugs because drugs are from Satan. You said; I would appear in everyone’s dream simultaneously; three times a year on specific dates so everyone would know that I was god and there would be no wars or stuff because everyone would agree.***I say; Thank God you are not able to appear in my dreams! LOL, but again, I speculate that Jesus does appear in our dreams which most likely will be revealed to us on the day of judgment…when we try to make our excuses as to why we didn’t accept Gods free gift of salvation. |
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Hardy_Boyz Joined: 2012-02-10 Posts: 587 |
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Cont>You said; You can’t die until your one hundred and Just before anyone dies they smile brightly and say “It's beautiful!”, then your grandparent becomes reborn as your grand kid with full knowledge of their previous life.***I say; Adam live an unknown number of years before he sinned and 900 years after he sinned. Sin caused his spirit to die instantly, He became conscience to his flesh and suddenly felt ashamed. Spiritual death is instant whereas the body took longer until God decided that it was not healthy for man to live in this earth (with sin and temptation) so he cut mans life span to 120 years. People who know God often do leave this earth quoting beautiful, peaceful messages. Okay, now the grandparent thing is too weird for me to comment on. You say; You can only give birth twice, one of each at 28 and 30. Sex is fun and not dirty and boobs never sag...**I say; Here we go with the progressive/communistic influence, thinking that they (rulers of fellow man) can put a number and limit another persons family size for fear of over population or whatever. Sex is fun (Thank you God!) As far as “boobs” go…when we are given the perfect partner in life (who is our helper & compliments us) we don’t mind when their body takes on maturity, we look beyond the flesh and see what is in the heart. Our decaying flesh is a result of sin, it is not what God wanted for us but He prepared us with the knowledge of who we are, what we have & what we can do. There is no way around the decaying process of our flesh. Man does try (with enhancements) which in the end…don’t work, nor are they satisfying. |
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Hardy_Boyz Joined: 2012-02-10 Posts: 587 |
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Cont>You said (in Post #78) “The two energies infused within our being are love and fear. Fear is the polarized energy working against love as love is trying to expand. Every emotion we experience is through these two. Neither is good or bad as they are part of “the whole” both completing and complementing each other creating and expanding our existence.” **I say; The two energies infused within our being are good and evil. Evil comes from Satan and produces fear whereas good comes from God and produces love. There is a spiritual battle that takes place within us. Many describe it as a battle of the mind and that is a safe way to describe it. Both energies are trying to expand and dominate. There is no “wholeness” with the dueling forces taking place within the being however the ignorant may feel at home with the power struggle and the enlightened ones discern the spiritual forces at hand and allow love to dominate which in turns produces “peace.” You say; “Our free will, discussed so often by the bible, is the free will to choose from these two emotions or the will to not choose at all. The fear self, lusts after material existence and can never bring peace. I believe as many others do that when we choose the workings of love we are rewarded in the best possible way.” **I say; Good luck at trying to achieve peace without God. Do you get upset over things that go wrong in your life? Do you desire to be glorified for your self-awesomeness? Do you desire to write books and have people read and follow your advice? I dare to think of how Satan tempts you my friend. The realities of self, fear, materialism & love have nothing to do with each other. |
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Hardy_Boyz Joined: 2012-02-10 Posts: 587 |
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Cont>You say; Everything that happens to us though is a learning experience so that we can be better, more loving, complete human beings. We need this polarity, it’s what infuses our existence, it’s what makes us alive and it’s what expands divinity. Without this law existence stops. It’s the Chaos theory in action; through supposed random events an order is underlying all. When we live with only love as our guide we return back to that love, not when we die but now, in the moment, this present.**I say; With age, wisdom does not necessarily come. Spend time in a retirement home. However take an ignorant punk like myself. A high school drop-out and get him filled with Gods spirit and the word of God and wisdom begins to take hold. Yes, my failures are a learning experience and Praise God they are not counted against me. You say; “God is not love (unless you want to use a male intonation to describe the love that births existence.” **I say; God is love. He created us out of love and even though there was a time when God was sorry He had created man, He still loved us and desired to be with us. Not here on earth but in His heavenly kingdom where there is no sin. In marital relationships we fall in love and we fall out of love. Most people do not even know what love is. It is NOT a feeling. “Lust” is a feeling. “Like” is a feeling. But Love is not an emotion…it is a decision. Jesus was the perfect example of love. He took our punishment on the cross and loved us when we condemned Him. He asked His Father to forgive us, even though we didn’t and still don’t deserve it. |
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Hardy_Boyz Joined: 2012-02-10 Posts: 587 |
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You said (In Post #88) “Within us is the potential to do anything, I believe that everything is energy. That when we speak we speak with the word of authority, when we think with direction we can manifest, but it all comes through a vibration. Words have power! When two million people throughout the world are intoning what basically is a male deity (and online etymology agrees saying that the gender of god shifted to masculine after the coming of Christianity) it is like the vibration of the male energy is manifesting. Everyone knows that when most religions pray that they say praise be to him, to our father in heaven.” I say; You have been reading your bible! You are repeating much of what God said. He gave us authority to speak His word. His word is the highest authority. We also have the name of Jesus which seals & delivers our request to have power. You and I both know our words take shape on a quantum level. God said “Life and death are in the POWER of the tongue.” I say-chose life, believe it & say it with your mouth. Confess words with life! The story of the Tower of Bable explains that man has unlimited power when he gathers together in unity & speaking the same thing. It was for mans own good that God scattered them confounding their language. Satan had gathered them in that day & fooled them into making their own way to heaven & thinking that they could make a name for themselves. Kinda like today, where man is doing his best to make a name for himself, thinking more highly than he ought and gathering together all the nations of the earth…speaking one language. It is what the Antichrist has been waiting for “Global government,” so he can have man back in the place that he had them (in the day of the tower/Bable.) God can not scatter us again, we have populated all over the earth and with technology, it is too easy for us to communicate globally. No, I’m afraid Jesus must return to the earth to gather His “elect.” |
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Hardy_Boyz Joined: 2012-02-10 Posts: 587 |
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Cont> You say; “But Love is everything.” **I say; The next time you are suffering with a headache or sickness…remind yourself that love is everything. When you experience death of a loved one…remind yourself that love is everything. The Muslims believe that God is in everything. The bible is clear that Satan is behind everything bad and God created everything good. You say; “I feel that if you do believe that “God” is not masculine, that it is in fact unnameable, then a more appropriate vibration should be used to intone this divinity. From reading the bible I discovered that Moses was told to call god “I Am” or “I Am that I Am.” I thought about this and other stuff and started to realize that I Am because the kingdom is within.” **I say; God is everything good. Moses did not know everything about God & God would not limit Himself to one name (one dimension.) Gods children know God as Jehovah; Our provider, Our healer, Our Peace, Our Savior and many more…He is not limited and will be what ever we need him to be. We call Him almighty. |
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Hardy_Boyz Joined: 2012-02-10 Posts: 587 |
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Cont>You say; “The idea of a god that has no gender and that infiltrates all of our lives while we have free will is kind of universal love anyway with retribution being meted out by a form of Karma. But most people think of a lord as specifically a man and then we are back at the “guy who created me” thing, which is fine if you want to believe this but don’t go telling others about your invisible friend creator.” **I say; You are rejecting what God offers and accepting what Satan offers…A new age religion of universalism and false love. Belief in “Karma.” Good deeds producing good effects in ones life and bad deeds resulting in harmful effects. But who is judging and controlling this Karma? Not too well thought of. Some cosmic scale of righteousness? People say they love their brothers and their neighbors but will you pay for them? Some people will work to earn their living and others simply do not. Many people choose to be victims in life…they cant work because of an injury or depression or whatever. Are you willing to work harder & pay higher taxes to pay for them? Or are you like Obama creating a healthcare plan that will put government in charge of who gets treatment and who does not. If your too old then you will be denied extensive treatment. No, I’m afraid sinful man has nice ideas of what love is but until they discover who God really is they can not experience it fully. Are you willing to sell your things be a slave so that others may live a good life? Jesus did and so did His disciples. That is LOVE my friend. So that you and I could LIVE. |
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Hardy_Boyz Joined: 2012-02-10 Posts: 587 |
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You say; “But really you can call “God” whatever you like but no one can ever convince me that HE is a MAN, that a MAN created me and loves me who is invisible in the sky and don’t talk to me of virgin mothers or floods or any of that stuff unless spiritual scripture is put into the category of myth. This doesn’t give it any less value and in my view enhances it. We can then move on with a fresh sense of awe and wonder as we experiment with our own divinity.”**I say; You’re right! No one can convince you. Man does not have the ability to change YOUR mind. That is between you, Satan and God. It will only be according to your freewill. Only the Holy Spirit has the ability to come into your heart and make the changes. Man can be an influence and an example. You say; “I feel bad upsetting those who have taken part in this discussion but I am not personally attacking their belief just religion as a whole. It’s nice to believe that you are part of something bigger but religion does have a bad track record, you know with all that genocide and torture and stuff.”**I say; No worries. Spiritually mature people don’t get offended. We know how to fend off the fiery darts of the wicked. Your right religion has a bad rap. God does not like religion. That is mans way of attempting to achieve something he can not achieve. Man can not earn Gods blessings or force God upon another. It is evil. God wants a RELATIONSHIP. Just like we desire to have a relationship with our children and provide for them and keep them from danger…so does God. He actually takes joy in us. |
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Hardy_Boyz Joined: 2012-02-10 Posts: 587 |
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Cont>You say (in Post #114) “I believe that we are all "sons of man", the I Am, Christ, Lord, Devil, Eden, Hell, Heaven; it’s all here and now within us. Have you read my book? Just asking because maybe you would understand me better.” **I say; If you are all of those things listed then you are one mixed up cocktail. The bible explains that we are created in the image of God. However, we have the influence of Satan. Most of us go through phases of spiritual development but with the Holy Spirit as our guide and the word of God as our knowledge we will win more battles (of the mind) than loose. As we develop, we will grow and sin less becoming more like Christ. **I once dated a Scientologist who couldn’t take the relationship any further because she claimed that I couldnt “know her unless I read the book Dianetics by L.Ron Hubbard.” Crazy stuff. She couldn’t show me who she was…I had to read some fictional philosophy book written by a science fiction author who started his own religion. |
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Hardy_Boyz Joined: 2012-02-10 Posts: 587 |
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Okay...I'm tired (Im going to bed) I wrote a few more thoughts and was going to transfer them over from word but...I didnt realize it was ending up this long. Anyways, Man...I got nothing but love for you. We can agree to disagree. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz =} |
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newrageguru Joined: 2012-03-28 Posts: 1287 |
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@Hardy_Boyz another round of you said I said. H_B: Perhaps God is neutral. God designed us before the foundation of the worlds. Jesus calls the one who is in heaven “Father.” Does this mean He (God-the Father) has a penis? I would guess no, but my guess is as good as your guess. NRG: If your god is neutral than “he” is both good and evil making everything you say from now on redundant. H_B: The bible also refers to wisdom as a “she.” NRG: And so it should. H_B: God knows the beginning from the end. He would have to explain things to us in a way that we could understand it throughout the ages, He would have to explain it to us as undeveloped man NRG: So why are you still looking at this like you’re an undeveloped man. H_B: We have 3 stages to development. 1. “Natural man” (who thinks according to his flesh only.) 2. “Carnal man” (who is born of the spirit but remains spiritually immature) and 3. “Spiritual man” (who is born of the spirit and is led by the spirit into maturity.) NRG: None of the names used above are found in the bible. Is this like a comeback for the “I Am” (found in the bible), “Christ” (found in the bible), “Lord” (found in the bible)??? |
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H_B: When He (God) said “Let us make man in our image” was he talking about male specifically or was he talking about spirit man with a soul and a body? NRG: It’s like the bible was saying “We are God”! H_B: Our spirits (bible calls “inner man”) NRG: No it doesn’t... H_B: God... is not created with a gender factor, however our bodies have been (for the purpose of reproducing.) Our soul (mind-will-emotion) is connected with our body. NRG: Now you are like god telling us his mind... We are made in gods image but with genitals. What other things have we got that god hasn’t??? H_B: They were thrown out of the garden of Eden (most likely Eden was not a geographical but some sort of outer dimension. NRG: Outer dimension? An alien planet perhaps run by a penisless god? You should stop hanging with your alien loving friend. If Eden is in “The outer dimensions” than are Adam and Eve outer dimensional beings? H_B: You see in Satan’s world man rules over his helper (his partner, his mate.) That will never change…man will always desire to rule over others and make a name for himself. NRG: Man will always rule over woman??? H_B: For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. **We will not be bound in marriage. NRG: Is this like group love then you little rascal. H_B: We will not be ruled by our flesh. We wont have the desires of the flesh (sorry for the Muslims who mater themselves in the name of Allah, who think that there will be 70 virgins waiting for them.) NRG: Why are you so right about this and the Muslims are wrong... OH, your talking directly to your outer dimension penisless god and they are raving terrorists.. |
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H_B: Furthermore, God the Trinity is often described as God-the Father (who is head of the household.) NRG: The household of outer space you mean? H_B: God-the Son (who is our friend “there is no greater friend but one who would lay down His life for another.” He is our high priest, our intercessor.) NRG: The priest of outer space, our alien friend, gosh we all need friends. Does he have a penis? H_B: God-the Spirit (our teacher, our guide & our comforter)=feminine. NRG: So the father and son are not spirit? Perspective time! We have a genderless god out there who has no penis but is our father with a son who might or might not have a penis who is also out there and then Mommy who is the smart one, teacher, guide, comforter, that is spirit... H_B: Our family circle in the flesh agrees with the balance. Father, Mother & Friend. NRG: In the flesh... In us... US. We have male, female, and spirit within us...US... I’m so confused by you right now!!! H_B: Since we are living in Satan’s realm…it would be Satan who puts people in hell. NRG: 1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. This IS Gods realm. It says so in the book. H_B: The Hebrew verbs in the O.T. illustrate God putting sickness and death upon people but in fact the verb written in the Hebrew is a permissive verb (meaning He will allow it.) It is not His wish but He allows us (man with freewill) to use our own words to create our destiny and He allows us to have what we say. NRG: No he doesn’t, he does this remember. God designed us before the foundation of the worlds, and God knows the beginning from the end. |
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H_B: God is merciful. He allows us to obtain His own spirit to guide us but if we knowingly reject Him, then we use our freewill to live with the outcome. NRG: Reject who, the penisless god who lives out there who stuck us on Satan’s world until we understand that he is merciful for this? H_B: Jesus died and went to hell, while He was there, He preached the ones who were held captive there (sounds like he gave them a second chance.) NRG: What bible are you reading? H_B: I don’t believe that there is one person who will end up in hell who didn’t make the conscience choice to reject his loving maker. NRG: Oh yeah... Hell, were Satan is... Oh hang on earth is his realm... We are in hell. H-B: I speculate that we know more of the supernatural realm including God, Jesus & demons in our dreams, then as we wake up, we live according to the flesh. The Holy Spirit is given to us to rehabilitate us during this age of grace where Gods goodness is poured out as he disposes favor upon us. NRG: Very Freudian. So when we dream we fly to heaven and god speaks to us. H_B: As sin grows, the earth feels the pain…right now the earth is travailing, which is a sign of the soon return of Jesus. There will be more earthquakes, hurricanes and other so-called “natural disasters.” NRG: What about mum and dad, do they stay in the outer dimension. H_B: The bible says that it is Satan who kills, steals and destroys. God came to give us life and life more abundantly. We have the freewill to die in a flood, a car accident or as a pillar of salt. HRG: So everyone has been killed by Satan. I freewill myself to die, in so-called natural disasters? We are all Satan then? |
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H_B: Drugs are part of Satan’s demonic force under the spirit of Pharmacia. NRG: Uhm... Alcohol is a drug... like wine! Didn’t Jesus turn water into a drug? H_B: We don’t need drugs. NRG: really what about for severe pain, operations... H_B: Many people have had surgeries without drugs (rather with the laying of hands and being in the spirit.) NRG: Oh... Fully explained, faith healing, of course. H_B: Look at Adam, God caused him to fall asleep when He removed one of his ribs to create Eve. There were no drugs because drugs are from Satan. NRG: Yeah but you said yourself that Eden is most likely not geographical but some sort of outer dimension, so this would of been out there somewhere, any way didn’t he put him to sleep. H_B: The two energies infused within our being are good and evil. Evil comes from Satan and produces fear whereas good comes from God and produces love. There is a spiritual battle that takes place within us. NRG: Hang on... Within us! God of the outer realms comes to Satan’s earth to fight within us a battle that we will use our free will to choose sides but in the end Satan will kill us anyway. Pisser. H_B: Many describe it as a battle of the mind and that is a safe way to describe it. Both energies are trying to expand and dominate. There is no “wholeness” with the dueling forces taking place within NRG: Positive and negative within us. Now you are talking about directly what I do. H_B: The ignorant may feel at home with the power struggle NRG: By ignorant you mean those who don’t know that the world is Satan’s. |
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H_B: The enlightened ones discern the spiritual forces at hand and allow love to dominate which in turns produces “peace. Good luck at trying to achieve peace without God. NRG: What, your god! I’m so confused, is this the outer ineer I made the world for Satan god? H_B: Do you get upset over things that go wrong in your life? NRG: No I get upset when everything is going great! H_B: Do you desire to be glorified for your self-awesomeness? NRG: Thanks for acknowledging my awesomeness but you should glorify your own inner awesomeness. H_B: Do you desire to write books? NRG: Ummm...Yes, Is this a trick question? H_B: The realities of self, fear, materialism & love have nothing to do with each other. NRG: No, no, of course not we don’t learn from fear or self or materialism or love using our free will we learn from... ummm... How do we use our free will again i appear to be confused by your reasoning? H_B: With age, wisdom does not necessarily come. Spend time in a retirement home. NRG: Did I say age guarantees wisdom? H_B: However take an ignorant punk like myself. A high school drop-out and get him filled with Gods spirit and the word of God and wisdom begins to take hold. NRG: You mean filled with religious spirit. |
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newrageguru Joined: 2012-03-28 Posts: 1287 |
1 year ago
H_B: Yes, my failures are a learning experience and Praise God they are not counted against me . NRG: Don’t forget sunshine that the realities of self, fear, materialism & love have nothing to do with each other so your failures don’t count. H_B: God is love. He created us out of love and even though there was a time when God was sorry He had created man, He still loved us and desired to be with us. Not here on earth but in His heavenly kingdom where there is no sin. NRG: So he dosn’t really love us unless we are in the outer realm? H_B: In marital relationships we fall in love and we fall out of love. NRG: Not every marriage. H_B: Most people do not even know what love is. NRG: Really... Then they would not know when it is missing then. H_B: It is NOT a feeling. “Lust” is a feeling. “Like” is a feeling. But Love is not an emotion…it is a decision. NRG: Like deciding to enjoy Zumba or preferring the heat over the cold, a decision, not an innate product of our true being. H_B: Jesus was the perfect example of love. He took our punishment on the cross. NRG: Millions were crucified! H_B: and loved us when we condemned Him. NRG: No one here ever condemned Jesus, unless you believe in a past life (Not that he existed in reality anyway.) H_B: He asked His Father to forgive us, even though we didn’t and still don’t deserve it. NRG: His penisless father in the outer realm who gave earth to Satan? |