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BirdyEdwards Joined: 2010-09-11 Posts: 3401 |
1 year ago
I'm the other way around, with a few exceptions. Time periods, I can go back to the Dark Ages, but I can only tell you about maybe the last 212 years. Yeah, she was pretty crazy. She even let her two sons walk over their sisters and she made them help burn that one. @IsadoraFier |
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BirdyEdwards Joined: 2010-09-11 Posts: 3401 |
1 year ago
People of WWI. :) The Greatest Generation is WWII, and Vietnam is Generation X. @IsadoraFier |
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_IsadoraFier Joined: 2011-01-27 Posts: 1276 |
1 year ago
@BirdyEdwards Wha.......that's just sick..... |
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_IsadoraFier Joined: 2011-01-27 Posts: 1276 |
1 year ago
@BirdyEdwards I'm confused...... |
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BirdyEdwards Joined: 2010-09-11 Posts: 3401 |
1 year ago
You asked what the Lost Generation was, and that's what they call the generations of people who grew up during those time periods. @IsadoraFier |
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_IsadoraFier Joined: 2011-01-27 Posts: 1276 |
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@BirdyEdwards oh okay So |
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KiplingKat Joined: 2010-11-04 Posts: 515 |
1 year ago
@IsadoraFier Actually, the term is used more specifically to refer to the artistic/literary movement born of the artists who came of age in WWI and the Great Depression. Hemingway, Fitzgerald, T.S. Eliot, and so on. WWI was so senseless, and loss of life so appalling (people crack jokes about the fact that France surrendered quickly to the Nazis in WWII, what most don't realize is that France lost a quarter of its male population in WWI, it simply did not have the manpower to fight them off), that it scarred cultural psyche of Europe and America and created a very different artisic mindset than what came before. |
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BirdyEdwards Joined: 2010-09-11 Posts: 3401 |
1 year ago
Not that I know of. Maybe Beat Generation, lol. Vietnam? About 1955-1974, I think. It was really more of a conflict between the two Vietnams and I think France and the USSR were backing one each. The US got involved in the early 60s by talking about sending forces and sending special units pretty early on. Real troops left in about 1965, Marines first I believe. The public was really aware of what was going on whereas Korea was pretty glossed over. People just pretended it didn't exist, but they knew about Vietnam. There was obviously extreme aversion to the war. I know my uncle was drafted in '69, and my grandma would just stay up every night and sit maybe five inches away from the TV, just staring in case she saw him or his name or something. Most of the people that went were poor Southern boys like my uncle and minorities. People who couldn't use college or something as a way around getting drafted, or people who volunteered so that they're be taken care of and paid. @IsadoraFier |
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BirdyEdwards Joined: 2010-09-11 Posts: 3401 |
1 year ago
Didn't Hemingway come up with the name? Or he made it popular. @KiplingKat |
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_Praeciarus Joined: 2012-02-20 Posts: 652 |
1 year ago
@alorasilverleaf Why don't you try Boolean logic? Searching things is hard. Boolean logic is each search engine's set of rules for searching. It could help you find what exactly you're searching for. Also, looking at websites as if you were planning a trip to South Dakota could be useful. I'll do some searching and see if I can't find all of the answers to your questions, though. :) @BirdyEdwards Ha-ha, thanks. Odd question, I know. It helped bunches. @IsadoraFier The fall of the Titans. :) |
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BirdyEdwards Joined: 2010-09-11 Posts: 3401 |
1 year ago
Not weird. I know those are the little things that usually trip me up. I spent weeks just trying to find information on summer vacation in late Victorian schools. @Praeciarus |
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KiplingKat Joined: 2010-11-04 Posts: 515 |
1 year ago
@BirdyEdwards Gertrude Stein did. She ran in the same crowd. |
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BirdyEdwards Joined: 2010-09-11 Posts: 3401 |
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Ooooh. Go Gertrude Stein. So basically, if they were in Midnight in Pairs. XD @KiplingKat Gertrude Stein always makes me think of this Fry and Laurie sketch. |
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Alice_Iceflower Joined: 2011-05-02 Posts: 609 |
1 year ago
@BirdyEdwards Oh, summer vacation in Victorian schools? Mind sharing the knowledge? Seems interesting and useful... |
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KiplingKat Joined: 2010-11-04 Posts: 515 |
1 year ago
@IsadoraFier Generation X is not Vietnam. That's the Baby Boomers, the children born after WWII. (The returning soldiers to a prosperous America created a minor population explosion.) Generations are usually not named until they have gotten old enough to establish a cultural character. It the events that shape the cultural idenitity. The Baby Boomers were coming of age in the Vietnam era. They fought it or protested against it. They also were raised in a time of great prosperity by parents who wanted to give them the things they did not have growing up in the Great Depression, which sadly gave them an economic character that made some terrible decisions for those that followed them. IMO, having never experienced a depressed economy, they never understood that things could go bad, and so in their "Greed is Good" attitude, they destroyed the safety nets put in place after the Great Depression to keep it from happening again. The older white haired politicians holding the reins of power right now are Baby Boomers. The Beats are like the Lost Generation. They are a literary movement, not an entire generation. Generation X are the kids born in the 1960's and 1970's. People that remember the 1980's. I was born in 1971, when America pulled out of Vietnam. I graduated HS in 1989. I'm Generation X. My sister was born in 1979, chronologically squeaking in, but raised with Gen X siblings, culturally she is Gen X as well. The kids born in the 1980's and 1990's have been termed "Generation Y" for convience sake, but now that they are coming of age, sociologists are trying to define them. Recently I saw them called "the Entitled Generation." I have also seen the term "Hipster," but I think that is a sub-culture of that generation yet. |
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GMSoban Joined: 2011-02-05 Posts: 43 |
1 year ago
@editorsUNITE My specialities in history are American History from 1700s-present, English history from 1300s-present, Restoration period, Renaissance, Middle Ages, Serial Killers in history, French revolution, anything related to Jack the Ripper (wrote a paper on it), Mafia history. This is what I specifically know about in American history are the wars (ranging from 1812 to Persian Gulf), the sexual revolution, and early 20s to 50s. In English history I know loads about the literature, culture, and foreign affairs such as wars, treaties, and monarchs. I also specialize in rare books, artifacts, and antiques since I am a garage picker and sell many rare things. from many centuries ago. I'm also very knowledgeable in religion as in Demons, Angels and the like and the paranormal aspect of things such as ghosts, entities, and old folklore tales like the Jersey Devil and Mothman. I think that's pretty much a generalization of what I know. -G |
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_Praeciarus Joined: 2012-02-20 Posts: 652 |
1 year ago
@BirdyEdwards Those little things are the hardest, but the most important. :) @GMSoban I love Jack the Ripper! Well, no, I don't LOVE him, seeing as that would make me a creepy psycho, but I'm very interested in him. I've read a little bit about him, but would like to know more. Can you tell me? :) Black Dahlia, anyone? |
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KiplingKat Joined: 2010-11-04 Posts: 515 |
1 year ago
And keep in mind, those generation definitions are for the U.S.. I don't think they translate across the Atlantic exactly. |
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GMSoban Joined: 2011-02-05 Posts: 43 |
1 year ago
@IsadoraFier The Sawney Beane clan were a bunch of miscreants who lived in a cave in Scotland . A lot of people think the family lived in Bannane Head which is near Galloway. They lived there for like 25 years unnoticed. Sawney Beane originally left home because he hated laborious work so he found a woman with the same crazy inclinations and they hid away in a cave. There they had eight sons, six daughters... then had eighteen grandsons and fourteen granddaughters all from incest. They were finally apprehended when they failed at capturing and eating a man and his wife. The wife perished, but the man took off only to come back with the King and his army. They caught the whole clan, and the villagers cut off the "private parts", hands, and feet of the men and let them bleed to death, and the women watched before being burned to death. The only ever evidence that this could have happened was mention in a book called Historical and Traditional Tales Connected with the South of Scotland by John Nicholson which was written in 1843, the Sawney Beane family was killed in the 15th century. But the tale also showed in chapbooks in England, where people would pay a penny for tale. I believe that the Sawney Beane tale was based off of a real occurrence, but never really happened with a man named Sawney Beane and his family. -G |
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GMSoban Joined: 2011-02-05 Posts: 43 |
1 year ago
@Praeciarus Jack the Ripper was a huge case back in 1888 in the Whitechapel District and mostly was patrolled and investigated by Scotland Yard. The most important police officials were Frederick G. Abberline, Chief Inspector Henry Moore, Donald Sutherland who was the Chief Inspector as well, John Spratling who was an inspector for the J Division, Walter Andres who was involved with the investigation of Francis Tumblety (a suspect), Charles Warren who was the Commissioner. Basically 5 prostitutes were killed in the early hours of the morning, mutilated and missing some organs. The worse murder was that of Mary Kelly who was found in her bed room totally unrecognizable. Her bowels were at the foot of the bed basically (I have pictures hanging on my cork board since I am writing a novel on it). The suspects ranged from Lewis Carroll (author of Through the Looking Glass and What Alice Found there), Walter Sickert (a sick painter), and even the Queen's doctor (this was where the conspiracy idea came from). Jack the Ripper did in fact like to send letters to the Metropolitan police, but I think the only legit letter was the From Hell letter. The writing was angry and "conflicted" and also a half eaten kidney was sent along with it. The Dear Boss letter was connected to the head of the local newspaper through a hand-writing specialist. There were also two murders before the canonical five were murder. Tabram and Smith. I believe that Tabram could have been killed by the same man as the other five. I believe that Walter Sickert is the most plausible for killing these prostitutes, but there is lack of evidence. There isn't much evidence stating that all the murders were committed by the same person except that the person has to be left handed since the throats were cut from left to right I know this because I have copies of the autopsies. If you want any SPECIFIC information just ask because I could ramble on about this forever. -G |
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_Praeciarus Joined: 2012-02-20 Posts: 652 |
1 year ago
@GMSoban Feel free to ramble! Who were the other prostitutes and what happened to them? And why was Lewis Carroll a suspect? |
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GMSoban Joined: 2011-02-05 Posts: 43 |
1 year ago
@Praeciarus The prostitutes that were killed the ones that are up in the air about being killed by JTR are Martha Tabram and Emma Smith. Mary Ann Nichols, Annie Chapman, Elizabeth Stride, Catherine Eddowes, and Mary Ann Kelly. Tabram was attacked by a right handed killer and had 5 wounds in the left lung, 2 wounds in the fight lung, 1 wound in the heart, 5 wounds in the liver, 2 wounds in the spleen, and 6 wounds in the stomach--this came to 39stab wounds. The attacker was believed to be a sailor since the knife was most likely a bayonet. She was registered dead on 25 August 1888. Emma Smith in my opinion was killed by a "Hip Rip" gang. These gangs would watch the area for the prostitutes and be paid for protection. Smith was often seen in alleys been ganged up and raped, beaten, and the like. If you want to know how she died PM me because it's quite gruesome and I don't want any kiddies finding this. Lol. The other five victims were all killed in back alleys, besides Kelly. They had many things taken from them such as kidneys, their uterus, and so on. Most had their bowels removed and this all happened in the dark so a person would have to know how to find the kidneys and in the dark at that. Lewis Carroll was a suspect because he had a mental issue. It later became the Alice in Wonderland syndrome which is basically a disease that comes with delusions so Lewis Carroll was kind of like the Mad Hatter you could say. Haha. So many believed his delusions made him murder. -G |
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figgyfan Joined: 2011-07-15 Posts: 2940 |
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@GMSoban No I haven't, do tell XD The Donner party only ate people because they were starving and couldn't get any other food...most of them anyway. Do you remember anything about a German man named Kiesburg? He prefered to eat people rather than the animals. they think that he killed and ate Tamsen Donner right after her husband died and she went to the upper camp. She was the only one left besides him. That ass-hat also strangled a four year old boy at night and hung him up on a wall when his half blind grandma started yelling at him. He ate him later too. :C And he abused his wife and some people think that he killed his son for food. I wouldn't put it pass him. He also didn't go with the first, second or third reliefs because "his foot hurt." There were six year olds walking over fifteen feet of snow by themselves and he didn't go...probably so he could munch on the survivers >.< He ticks me off more than the Idiot who wrote the book! Fittingly he died alone and penniless, forever known as a cannibalistic arse-butt by the people of California. |
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_Praeciarus Joined: 2012-02-20 Posts: 652 |
1 year ago
@GMSoban Were they all found dead in the same place? Very odd. Do you know if Lewis Carroll had these issues when he wrote Through the Looking Glass? I will definitely PM you. :) |
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GMSoban Joined: 2011-02-05 Posts: 43 |
1 year ago
@Praeciarus No they were all found on different street corners in the Whitechapel district. Some say they make a 5 pointed star thus relating to the masonic groups in Whitechapel, but that's all rubbish. The killer did not intentionally kill each woman in a specific place. -G |