What makes you believe?


  • Imnotamodelimjusthot
    Imnotamodelimjusthot
    1 year ago

    I am a Christian. I believe because it's the truth. Basically I've been studying the Bible for nine years :D God and Jesus not only help me live a moral life in a corrupt world, but also give me a role model.

    Some people say that religion is for the weak and feeble minded. But I think otherwise. How could a weak person put their faith in something they can't see, something that isn't tangible. They don't, they put their faith in science, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, however, science had to begin somewhere right. I litterally laugh when people say that the world began with an explosion. Where did that explosion come from? What caused it? Where is your proof?? In essence, you don't have anymore proof than we Christians do.

  • Bekahgzm
    Bekahgzm
    11 months ago

    Because what made the slime that was supposedly us? Where didbthe chemicals from that? Ect ect. It's a theory. The bible has been the longest thing on this Earth so it might as well be real. Why do prayers get answered? How come people get filled with tongues? How do people feel a move in there heart? These are some questions to say that I believe because of those concepts @TheLocalGuerilla

  • MotazAbumathkour
    MotazAbumathkour
    11 months ago

    @TheLocalGuerilla well, I'm replying to the first comment you made while reading what others are saying. Basically, it's as @Freezing_Fire is saying, what keeps me intact with religion is (you probably should have noticed by now) the correlation between religion and science. Giving examples is really easy, and many people have different views on many things. Let's talk about "evolutionism vs. creationism".

    1- I myself believe in creationism because the chances of "luck" making us, it's like the chance of a tornado going by a junk yard and forming a Boeing 787 just by luck, so I don't believe in evolutionism. But, there are actually Muslims that believe in the co-existence of Evolution and Creation, and they even brought religious proofs. :D

    2- well, even though the big bang did create the universe, who actually made the big bang go "bang"? and why did it go "bang" at that exact same time, and doesn't the world change in this way "sophistication --------> simplicity"? so why were we an exception???? isn't that weird? and I have actually searched and found that the world CAN make exceptions, it just needs some thresholds (you may see more here " http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/david_christian_big_history.html " ) but well, the guy himself said it, before the big bang, there was no time, no space, nothing. So how could the world (not existing then) have made the threshold to make the "Bang"? and why does the question that is still a mystery "The arrow of time" state that there should be no way of us coming into existence unless left literally forever, and well, we frankly haven't. I guess religion is what answers my questions that science couldn't :)

    oh and, for more about "the arrow of time" check this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_125439&feature=iv&v=WMaTyg8wR4Y&src_vid=GdTMuivYF30

    and as I usually say, I'm a Muslim, not a Christian, though that isn't the point here. Now I should go on with the comments :p

  • MotazAbumathkour
    MotazAbumathkour
    11 months ago

    @TheLocalGuerilla in reply to comment #48: LOL XD

  • MotazAbumathkour
    MotazAbumathkour
    11 months ago

    @HonorsKid in reply to #51: so, in your own point of view, atheists and christians are on the same level? how can belief and disbelief be the same thing? and the phrase "I simply believe because it's the truth" is something that simply shows simplicity as well as ignorance. Why did you call what you believe in the truth? now you are dropping belief below disbelief, mainly contradicting with your 1st statement. Now what I would like you to do is, please stop being so shallow and dig more into science as well as religion. Try to learn more. Because simply, your unaided belief will soon be put into question, and you will lose it because of the lack of proof. Now you say science doesn't have any proof? well it actually does. Much proof actually, because scientists don't just say "This is nice, let's just make a theory and spread it like hell!! HELL YEAH!" no, that doesn't happen, every theory has its proof, be it mathematical or physical, but they all have proof, and if they don't, then nature's the proof.

  • MotazAbumathkour
    MotazAbumathkour
    11 months ago

    @Bekahgzm all the questions you asked can be answered scientifically, and here are the answers :)

    1 & 2- What made the slime? well, there were elements on earth, which came from stars, which, in their turn, came from the big bang.

    3- why do prayers get answered? I suggest you go read about Schrodinger's cat :)

    4 & 5- Evolutionism.

    Now for my reply on those stuff, I suggest you go read my comment #53 :)

  • MotazAbumathkour
    MotazAbumathkour
    11 months ago

    @Hardy_Boyz I'm surprised anyone would actually talk to you. I must thank @Freezing_Fire and @ImBatman420 for being a lot better than you are, because if I were in their place, I would have told you to learn proper manners and dropped it there, because you lack the manners for any conversation and I doubt you have any debates in real life. And just a tip, it was obvious you were losing and were feeling threatened the moment you started foul-mouthing. I am not in for a fight or anything, it just is annoying how people like you are still alive, no offense meant. Peace all. :)

  • MotazAbumathkour
    MotazAbumathkour
    11 months ago

    Wow, that was the longest thing I ever did in my life XD If this conversation was on a final, I would have miserably failed XD

  • Hardy_Boyz
    Hardy_Boyz
    11 months ago

    @MotazAbumathkour I see responses like yours often enough but I want you to know…they have no effect on me. I go about my daily business with joy. I am filled with such love and understanding from God that it overflows. I live with peace in my heart and know that NOTHING can by any means hurt me. Such peace can only come from God and knowing the truth of His word.

    I have love for you and I pray for you. I understand that you may disagree but I am hopeful that we will come together as brothers one day. God is LOVE. He shows us love by showing us Jesus.

  • MotazAbumathkour
    MotazAbumathkour
    11 months ago

    @Hardy_Boyz Though I do believe in Isa alaihi assalam, and in universal love, I think there should be rules to anything and everything in life. And the way you talk shows not love at all, it only shows ignorant bashing (no offense)

  • Psalmista
    Psalmista
    10 months ago

    @TheLocalGuerilla I saw this thread a couple of days ago and it really go tme thinking... "Why do I believe?" I remembered it last night, and came up with these:

    • It's hard not to believe in God when you grow up seeing demon possessions. I remember one that really shook me to the core, because it happened to a dear friend of mine. She's fine now and she loves God.
    • It's hard not to believe in God when your mom comes home from a mission trip in Indonesia, inexplicably sick, with doctors keeping her in the hospital, not knowing what's wrong. She got well after she herself did what we call "spiritual warfare". There's a long back story to this, but I won't go into details.
    • It's hard not to believe in God when you've seen visions that actually came true. My sister was a victim of an explosion caused by a gas leak at our church. She had first and second degree burns on her face, arms and legs. Three days after the explosion, I saw a vision of her with the skin on her face good as new. Even her doctor couldn't believe that she came out of it with no scars on her face, saying that in all her years as a doctor, she's never seen a burn patient come out of it with better skin than before.

    I could go on, but I think if you've read this far, you get my point. You can probably say that there's some sort of scientific or logical explanation for every single one of the situations i cited. And maybe there is.

    But the thing is, I believe because I've experienced God and His goodness and His love in more ways than I can even begin to explain. I know God. I have a personal, living relationship with Him.

    Dan Brown probably isn't the best author to quote when it comes to these types of discussions, but I really liked what was written in one of his books, Angels & Demons. "Science and God are not at odds. Science is simply too young to understand."

  • Psalmista
    Psalmista
    10 months ago

    @MotazAbumathkour "Though I do believe in Isa alaihi assalam, and in universal love, I think there should be rules to anything and everything in life. And the way you talk shows not love at all, it only shows ignorant bashing (no offense)"

    Just wondering... who is Isa Alaihi Assalam? And I've always wanted to know, because someone told me before that there is a Jesus in the Quran? Pure curiosity... is that true? And what is His Name in there?

    I didn't actually read the whole trail of conversation here... just thought I'd reply to the first comment... so I don't really know about the "ignorant bashing", but I totally agree with what you said about love. :) We reflect God in our love. We're nothing without love. Just resounding gongs or clanging cymbals without love. <3 Perhaps that's one thing we Christians and Muslims can agree upon. :)

  • MotazAbumathkour
    MotazAbumathkour
    10 months ago

    @Psalmista Isa Alaihi Assalam IS Jesus :) , His name is Isa and "alahi assalam" literally means "PBUH"

  • Psalmista
    Psalmista
    10 months ago

    @MotazAbumathkour Ohhhh... I was thinking that it was! Haha... That's nice to know. Uhh... sorry if it's a dumb question, but what does "PBUH" stand for?

  • Psalmista
    Psalmista
    10 months ago

    Oh, never mind. Googled it. Peace Be Upon Him. ^_^ Nice!

  • MotazAbumathkour
    MotazAbumathkour
    10 months ago

    @Psalmista Peace Be Upon Him

  • Psalmista
    Psalmista
    10 months ago

    @MotazAbumathkour Like! (Sometimes, I wish Wattpad had a Like button... My Facebook programming I guess... lol...)

  • MotazAbumathkour
    MotazAbumathkour
    10 months ago
  • OmegaStories
    OmegaStories
    10 months ago

    I believe because I hunger for God. Just like physically, when a person hungers for food, one must eat (cake preferably). I believe that every human being has a spirit, soul, and body. God satisfies that hunger. Most of the time, many refuse to believe because they doubt that the hunger exist, but perhaps death is the last chance, where will we go when we die? Honestly, in all my life of living, I can never say that I regret knowing God. I'd rather live knowing Him than never have known Him. I cannot quite put to words how awesome God is. Science alone cannot explain how things came to be. I mean we even have to have faith in science, so thus, it is acceptable to have faith in God. Peace, y'all.

  • TheLocalGuerilla
    TheLocalGuerilla
    10 months ago

    @OmegaStories Ofcourse, science cannot prove everything. But faith is merely an excuse for the things science can't explain, like this god of yours.

  • hhesitate
    hhesitate
    10 months ago

    I am actually pretty much agnostic but I know for sure I don't believe in a god or a higher entity. I find religions (or lack of) to be very interesting but I see flaws in all of them... So, I really just think faith is a silly but nice thing to have. It gives people reassurance and all and that's nice.

  • OmegaStories
    OmegaStories
    10 months ago

    Neh, God is too awesome for science. Faith is a valid excuse. "Without faith, it is impossible to please God." - Jesus said. :D Faith is the eyes to see the spiritual until a person has come to understand that, it will be very hard to understand God.

  • Psalmista
    Psalmista
    10 months ago

    @OmegaStories "Faith is the eyes to see the spiritual." I love that. It's so true.

  • TheLocalGuerilla
    TheLocalGuerilla
    10 months ago

    @OmegaStories I don't see how faith can be valid, since you can't validate something with it.

  • OmegaStories
    OmegaStories
    10 months ago

    Dude, if don't have faith, you don't have it. I can try to reason with you but you won't get it. Faith can only be validated once you actually act on it. If you wanna know God, He'll by all means reveal Himself to you. But if your heart is not ready, then you'll be stuck somewhere in the twilight zone or should I say, the matrix. "You will seek Me and find Me when you seek Me with all your heart." - God says in Jeremiah 29:13. Only those who hunger and are passionate and unless drawn by God, can truly understand this thing called "faith". All I'm saying is that there is a God out there who cares about you and everyone, and life can just mess things up sometimes, but He is there, you just gotta seek Him. For example, it's just like running after a girl you like. You can't just sit down and let the jocks take her, you gotta passionately get to know her, send her flowers, know her likes and dislikes, be her friend, and DO something. Love is a funny thing, it sometimes takes faith. Same thing with God, He came gave His life in the cross, to validate His love for mankind. So now it's our turn, we ought to seek and pursue Him. Peace out again! *Shares a slice of cake with TheLocalGuerilla

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Hikari13  1 year ago
hhesitate  10 months ago
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Psalmista  10 months ago
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MotazAbumathkour  10 months ago
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Imnotamodelimjusthot  1 year ago
Robinn  1 year ago
Hardy_Boyz  11 months ago
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_Freezing_Fire  1 year ago
Bekahgzm  11 months ago
_suspiciouscranberry  1 year ago
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OmegaStories  10 months ago
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